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  • hugh grant
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    #31
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Now you are adding Bradley. That makes his official record 8-3-1. I had Manny beating Bradley the 1st fight even though judges had him losing. I had JMM beating him the 3rd fight. IMO his record should be 7-4-1 but we go with the official record.

    Pac hasn't fought 35 killers. He fought bums and lost to them. You can't erase that or change it.

    Floyd has an outstanding resume littered with HOF'ers, as does Manny. The difference is Floyd didn't lose to them while Manny did. Nothing to be ashamed of.
    Only about 25 fighters on floyds resume are names your average boxing fans might know. Maybe half of those people are of any consequence and worth mentioning if we are generous. That's a poor output however you look at it. Pac s wins over 4 boxing greats is almost floyds whole career. Out of these 4 Pac did the best easily, no contest.
    You can't ignore that. That's why Pac s resume is too much for fkoyd
    Last edited by hugh grant; 07-22-2019, 01:12 PM.

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      #32
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      Only about 25 fighters on floyds resume are names your average boxing fans might know. Maybe half of those people are of any consequence and worth mentioning if we are generous. That's a poor output however you look at it. Pac s wins over 4 boxing greats is almost floyds whole career. Out of these 4 Pac did the best easily, no contest.
      You can't ignore that. That's why Pac s resume is too much for fkoyd
      The 1st 41 fights of Manny's career are against unknown people. The 1st 17 fights of Floyd's career are against unknowns.

      Floyd has wins over arguably the 3 most popular non HWT boxers other than himself in the last 30 years-ODH, Manny, Canelo and a win over Cotto, the most popular Puerto Rican fighter other than Tito.

      Floyd's resume has gotten him ranked the best of his generation in multiple polls of different writers and historians. In fact it is the strength of his resume that makes him such an ATG because a fighter as great as Manny fought some similar names but couldn't win all the fights.

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        #33
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        The 1st 41 fights of Manny's career are against unknown people. The 1st 17 fights of Floyd's career are against unknowns.

        Floyd has wins over arguably the 3 most popular non HWT boxers other than himself in the last 30 years-ODH, Manny, Canelo and a win over Cotto, the most popular Puerto Rican fighter other than Tito.

        Floyd's resume has gotten him ranked the best of his generation in multiple polls of different writers and historians. In fact it is the strength of his resume that makes him such an ATG because a fighter as great as Manny fought some similar names but couldn't win all the fights.
        Floyd wouldn't have 12 fights with jmm, morales, Bradley and barrera and leave being unbeaten. He was lucky against Castillo and maidana and Pac to be unbeaten.
        Pac has fought these guys 12 times. Only about 15 opponents in floyds resume are worth talking about and you won't find 12 opponents on the level of the quartet. Pac has 8 wins over these guys and only about 8 or 9 Floyd opponents are worth talking about. So I'll say it again, floyds career don't compare. So stop with the Pac wasted time comments fighting diaz, and horn you cheeky little chappy.
        Last edited by hugh grant; 07-22-2019, 02:06 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by hugh grant
          Floyd wouldn't have 12 fights with jmm, morales, Bradley and barrera and leave being unbeaten. He was lucky against Castillo and maidana and Pac to be unbeaten.
          Pac has fought these guys 12 times. Only about 15 opponents in floyds resume are worth talking about and you won't find 12 opponents on the level of the quartet. So I'll say it again, floyds career don't compare. So stop with the Pac wasted time comments fighting diaz, and horn you cheeky little monkey
          Floyd wouldn't need 12 fights against all of them because he'd win all by KO or by such a wide UD that a rematch would be unnecessary. If he was lucky in your opinion ok, long as you admit he won those fights.

          Stop giving him credit for losing and failing to beat JMM after being up 10-6 in round 1. That is why he fought Bradley, Morales and JMM again.

          Manny hasn't fought anyone as good as Floyd's top 2 wins-Canelo or Manny. Floyd's career is ahead of Manny's so in that sense they don't compare. IMO Manny is the consensus #2 of Floyd's era so I think it's fair to comapre their resumes.

          You brought up those guys, not me. Then you edited the post because Ortiz and Baldomir were world champions when floyd fought them.

          What a f@g you are!

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            #35
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Floyd wouldn't need 12 fights against all of them because he'd win all by KO or by such a wide UD that a rematch would be unnecessary. If he was lucky in your opinion ok, long as you admit he won those fights.

            Stop giving him credit for losing and failing to beat JMM after being up 10-6 in round 1. That is why he fought Bradley, Morales and JMM again.

            Manny hasn't fought anyone as good as Floyd's top 2 wins-Canelo or Manny. Floyd's career is ahead of Manny's so in that sense they don't compare. IMO Manny is the consensus #2 of Floyd's era so I think it's fair to comapre their resumes.

            You brought up those guys, not me. Then you edited the post because Ortiz and Baldomir were world champions when floyd fought them.

            What a f@g you are!
            Your such a Floyd fanboy wouldn't need 12 times to beat them convincingly.? Pac didn't have to fight them 12 times. He wanted to be a great fighter historically giving fans what they want. Floyd wouldn't know about that. Pac s 8 wins over, jmm, bradley,morales, barrera equals the worthwhile part of floyds entire resume. Nobody needs to brings Pac additional wins over cotto, hatto, dlh, thurman into play

            Yes, history will give Pac credit for 2 razor close decision wins and credit for scorecard error also. It's better than one cheated scales, bloating up 2 divisions win. You.might not give credit but your praise don't mean much. A nel o win don't compare to 2 wins over barrera what are you smoking, I'll have some of that? Was nel o p fp no1 or 2?
            Last edited by hugh grant; 07-23-2019, 03:32 AM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Floyd wouldn't need 12 fights against all of them because he'd win all by KO or by such a wide UD that a rematch would be unnecessary. If he was lucky in your opinion ok, long as you admit he won those fights.

              Stop giving him credit for losing and failing to beat JMM after being up 10-6 in round 1. That is why he fought Bradley, Morales and JMM again.

              Manny hasn't fought anyone as good as Floyd's top 2 wins-Canelo or Manny. Floyd's career is ahead of Manny's so in that sense they don't compare. IMO Manny is the consensus #2 of Floyd's era so I think it's fair to comapre their resumes.

              You brought up those guys, not me. Then you edited the post because Ortiz and Baldomir were world champions when floyd fought them.

              What a f@g you are!
              manny fought Floyd, someone better than the opponents in Floyd's top 2 wins, and was schooled

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                #37
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Your such a Floyd fanboy wouldn't need 12 times to beat them convincingly.? Pac didn't have to fight them 12 times. He wanted to be a great fighter historically giving fans what they want. Floyd wouldn't know about that. Pac s 8 wins equals the worthwhile part offloyds entire resume
                Yes, history will give Pac credit for 2 razor close decision wins and credit for scorecard error also. It's better than one cheated scales, bloating up 2 divisions win. You.might not give credit but your praise don't mean much. A nel o win don't compare to 2 wins over barrera what are you smoking, I'll have some of that? Was nel o p fp no1 or 2?
                Please don't lie. He fought Morales and Bradley again because he lost the 1st fight against each. He fought JMM a 2nd and 3rd time because the 1st fight was a draw and fought JMM a 4th time rather than take the $40 mil, no PPV offer from Floyd.

                No Floyd wouldn't need 12 times. We know he didn't with JMM. He is much too big for Barrera so we know he wouldn't need 2 fights. You don't think Tim beat Manny so I doubt you think he'd have beaten Floyd. Best case you can make is Morales bested floyd in sparring so he may have upset in shape Floyd and maybe they would go 3.

                Don't forget the KO loss to JMM.

                A win over Manny is better than 2 wins over Barrera. Canelo wasn't but Manny was #2 p4p when Floyd beat him. JMM was also #2 when Floyd beat him in the comeback.
                Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-22-2019, 02:33 PM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                  manny fought Floyd, someone better than the opponents in Floyd's top 2 wins, and was schooled
                  Correct. I should've posted fought and defeated.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Dosumpthin
                    Because haters like you claim Manny was washed vs Floyd.
                    I remember when pacquiao was talking about rematch with cotto, floyd fans said pac would just destroy him again he is damage goods.

                    Then floyd signs to fight cotto and all of a sudden he was fresh again.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by hectari
                      I remember when pacquiao was talking about rematch with cotto, floyd fans said pac would just destroy him again he is damage goods.

                      Then floyd signs to fight cotto and all of a sudden he was fresh again.
                      This isn't true Hecatri come on. Don't take something 1 poster might have posted and apply it to all floyd fans.

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