Why is it only Floyd fans who say anything pac does now

[travestyny]

So, Calzaghe > Hopkins and Jones?

Calzaghe handled both, never juiced whereas Jones got caught and Hopkins was suspect at least. Calzaghe undefeated too.

You are seemingly trying to make a false equivalence here.

What does drug use have to do with whether Calzhaghe is greater than Hopkins and Jones?

You said all three, Mayweather, Pac, and Marquez used. Hopkins never popped for anything, so he is in the same boat as Calzhaghe.


You are simply putting labels on people YOU suspect, based on absolutely nothing. Mayweather took well over 100 drug tests with an ABP. If he is fooling those WADA labs, (which by the way independently run a specific gravity check on urine samples to ensure they were not diluted...and an IV masks a urine sample...BY DILUTION), then that's beyond amazing.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd s resume just isnt as in depth as pacs.. He's had 21 more fights than Floyd so had that much quality in his resume.
Floyd never rematched fighters who could enhance his legacy. Floyd left boxing with people thinking nel o would.beat him in. rematch if in nelo prime. Floyd s old so don't expect Floyd to rematch now, so can only get credit for version of Nell he fought. Just like Pac only gets credit for version of cotto or margarito Pac fought.
Floyd left boxing with people thinking he ducked young lions.
But bottom line flouds ability to enhance legacy ended when he beat tenshin..

Manny having 21 more fights doesn't mean his resume has more depth. It means he has more Horn,Clottey and Diaz level opponents on his resume. Note that he lost to Horn and Torrecampo and had draws with with other guys that are C level opponents.

[hugh grant]

Manny having 21 more fights doesn't mean his resume has more depth. It means he has more Horn,Clottey and Diaz level opponents on his resume. Note that he lost to Horn and Torrecampo and had draws with with other guys that are C level opponents.

Pac s fight with barrera, jmm, morales, Bradley spans 10 fights that is a fifth of floyds career alone. Actually those 4 opponents for pac is equal to half of floyds career because there are about 22 early opponents for floyd who nobody knows who the heck they are.

When a poll was done who's opponent was tougher Bradley for pac, or cotto for floyd Bradley was deemed tougher and Pac beat him 3 times.
Pac was fighting champs at 19 whilst work in progress.

Floyd s wasted half his career fighting names that don't roll off tongue. Horn, clottey, and Diaz are at least known. There's about 22 early Floyd opponents nobody Knowsl who they are! So at least half floyds resume are bums

[GrandpaBernard]

Horn doesn't have any fans.

Don't lie.

[The Big Dunn]

Pac s fight with barrera, jmm, morales, Bradley spans 10 fights that is a fifth of floyds career alone. Actually those 4 opponents for pac is equal to half of floyds career because there are about 22 early opponents for floyd who nobody knows who the heck they are.

When a poll was done who's opponent was tougher Bradley for pac, or cotto for floyd Bradley was deemed tougher and Pac beat him 3 times.
Pac was fighting champs at 19 whilst work in progress.

Floyd s wasted half his career fighting names that don't roll off tongue. Horn, clottey, and Diaz are at least known. There's about 22 early Floyd opponents nobody Knowsl who they are! So at least half floyds resume are bums

He fought Barrera, Morales and JMM a total of 9 times, not 10. He was officially 6-2-1. The media felt he lost 2 of the 1st 3 to JMM.

Berto was his last fight, so I don't see how he "wasted time with the Bertos".

Horn was not more well known than any Floyd opponent from Genaro Hernandez on.

Baldomir was the lineal WW champ when Floyd fought him. I guess Floyd is truly one of the ATG's since you posted fighting the lineal champ was "wasting time".

There are the same amount of people on Manny's resume that are unknown bums. The difference is Floyd beat all of them while Manny got KTFO, lost and had draws.

Edit-what a f@ggot you are. Editing the post to take off Baldomir and Ortiz because they were champions when Floyd fought them.

You are truly pathetic.

[CHOWWOKKA]

For years *******s made the claim that Manny was damaged goods after the Marquez KO yet his only loss was to Floyd (and maybe Jeff horn..sort of)which is evidence that Manny is still much better then you would like us all to believe.
Now If you compare that to who Floyd has fought since laying the smack down on Manny.. Berto... and two exhibition fights which suggests that Floyd is not as good as he once was.

So you can only surmise from this that Floyd operating at like 60% was still better then Manny who was probably at 85%.

Floyd truly is the GOAT

[Eff Pandas]

I think Pac still gots a lot of fans. The live crowd was wild & thats cuz of both guys. At the live workout I went to it was like 70% Pac fans probably.

But yea Pac doing more sh^t does enhance Floyd just like Canelo doing more sh^t enhances Floyd, but that sh^t happens with everyone so its nothing new or weird.

[hugh grant]

He fought Barrera, Morales and JMM a total of 9 times, not 10. He was officially 6-2-1. The media felt he lost 2 of the 1st 3 to JMM. Berto was his last fight, so I don't see how he "wasted time with the Bertos".

Horn was not more well known than any Floyd opponent from Genaro Hernandez on.

Baldomir was the lineal WW champ when Floyd fought him. I guess Floyd is truly one of the ATG's since you posted fighting the lineal champ was "wasting time".

There are the same amount of people on Manny's resume that are unknown bums. The difference is Floyd beat all of them while Manny got KTFO, lost and had draws.

Pac has officially 8 wins with barrera, morales, jmm, and bradkey, 9 if not scorecard error. Those 4 opponents alone is equal to clouds while career nearly.
Yes Pac has a few bums on resume but he has had more fights so it's relative isn't it.
Did you want Pac to fight 71 killers? If you want floyds resume to be equal to Pac s most would want Floyd to fight 35 killers at least

[The Big Dunn]

Pac has officially 8 wins with barrera, morales, jmm, and bradkey, 9 if not scorecard error. Those 4 opponents alone is equal to clouds while career nearly.
Yes Pac has a few bums on resume but he has had more fights so it's relative isn't it.
Did you want Pac to fight 71 killers? If you want floyds resume to be equal to Pac s most would want Floyd to fight 35 killers at least

Now you are adding Bradley. That makes his official record 8-3-1. I had Manny beating Bradley the 1st fight even though judges had him losing. I had JMM beating him the 3rd fight. IMO his record should be 7-4-1 but we go with the official record.

Pac hasn't fought 35 killers. He fought bums and lost to them. You can't erase that or change it.

Floyd has an outstanding resume littered with HOF'ers, as does Manny. The difference is Floyd didn't lose to them while Manny did. Nothing to be ashamed of.

[Beercules]

They're ******ed.