Wow! DAZN screwing over Canelo and Andrade

[ruedboy]

What does it matter. It matters a lot to DAZN or else they would approve anyone he fights. They aren't doing that.

Most of these guys aren't fight fans. How can they be when they a cheer a champ for not fighting his #1 contender.

[thedarkdragon11]

It's disgusting to see Undisputed Championships being blocked because of such problems...

[ruedboy]

What's the IBF exception rule if it's not a unification? I know they made an exception for the GGG/Vanes fight because of the circumstances with Canelo pooping dirty. Yet they still told GGG to fight SD within 90 days. Those circumstances don't apply here. The IBF doesn't give exceptions unless it's unification. So DAZN is telling him only GGG & Kovalev are approved no need to file an exception because he can't unify with Andrade

If what you're saying is true why haven't we heard howls of protest from the diva and Oscar?
Maybe I missed it but I haven't heard one word from the diva, Oscar or GBP about the IBF or Deveryenchenko.
No they haven't protested to DAZN or gone public because the diva never intended to fight Deveryencheko.

[Citizen Koba]

What's the IBF exception rule if it's not a unification? I know they made an exception for the GGG/Vanes fight because of the circumstances with Canelo pooping dirty. Yet they still told GGG to fight SD within 90 days. Those circumstances don't apply here. The IBF doesn't give exceptions unless it's unification. So DAZN is telling him only GGG & Kovalev are approved no need to file an exception because he can't unify with Andrade

Mmmm. Basically what they decide is what it looks like - doesn't have to be a unification, but no exception will be made after purse bid is announced:

Rule 11.Exception to Regulations11.A.

Request for Exception

A request for an Exception to the enforcement of any IBF/USBA rule may only be made by a reigning Champion and must be in writing setting forth the reasons for making such a request.Once the IBF/USBA has sent out the notice of the date of thepurse bid,or once a contract has been signed for a mandatory bout, no Request for an Exception can be made

https://www.ibfusbaregistration.com/ibfusba_02APR2014/downloads/Rules_Amended_Jan_27_2014.pdf

They're usually pretty hot on their mandos though (case in point being as you say GGG - D'Chenko), so I expect they'd be wanting a pretty good reason. I don't know the situation WRT to Andrade though - the quote I provided in my last post kinda suggests that while they were (and are) pushing hard for Golovkin or Kovalev they might go with someone else if neither of those were possible.

Either way... ain't really blaming Canelo - the favouritism kinda turns me off him a bit but you can't fault him on his choice of opposition (though I hadn't really seen him show any interest in Andrade even before the Kovalev / GGG thing)... equally ain't gonna blame DAZN for looking for a ROI. Shit kinda sucks for Boo Boo... be nice if DAZN actually tried to leverage either GGG or Canelo to fight him, but I guess they maybe worried about either of 'em taking an L - or hell just looking bad which is entirely likely with Boo Boo.

[ruedboy]

It's disgusting to see Undisputed Championships being blocked because of such problems...

Man, it's not true. Alvarez isn't interested in unifying the MW division.(He couldn't anyway, Charlo has the WBC Title.) He wants to win a title in another weight class. Canelo wants that to be his legacy, to be seen as a multi -weight champ.

[TheCell8]

It'll be GGG vs. Munguia, unfortunately. As soon as it was reported that Canelo wasn't fighting on Mexican independence, you knew what was up.

[Citizen Koba]

yea, he fights twice a year.... Sep/Dec..... who really cares

what this suggests to me.....

is that Canelo had no intention of facing Charlo... for undisputed

if Charlo was on the horizon (most likely after Andrade) then they would have requested an exemption from the IBF

it appears that being technically undisputed, is not high on Canelo's list of priorities

they could get away with fighting Andrade, but fighting Andrade and then Charlo, would have required a deal with the IBF..... which Canelo never attempted

he will likely just take big fights, and not necessarily focus on the hardware

now DAZN 100% know, that Canelo will walk if he thinks that they are treating him unfairly

I suspect that his December outing, and all subsequent outings..... will be immediately approved by DAZN..... because yea, not a good look for DAZN..... especially if Munguia, Murata, and Horn, are the fights they will approve for Golovkin

there is a HUGE chasm between Golovkin/Kovalev, and Munguia/Murata/Horn

Yeah, I think it's clear that the belts ain't really a priority for Canelo - in essence the WBC basically just recognised and codified what was already inevitable with the 'franchise champ' thing. Ain't really my preference for how the sport should be, but the fact is Canelo can likely get bigger fights more easily if he just foregoes the belts (and the commitments that go with 'em) altogether.. Like I mentioned in an earlier conversation, for the smaller earners the belts are actually a valuable asset, but above a certain income level - Floyd, Manny, Canelo... - the real big earners - they can actually become a hindrance.

I'll wait and see how it pans out - DAZN have got a lot of money on the table, but Canelo can get a lot of money elsewhere... they both got leverage and I haven't got enough knowledge of the contract structure to be able to predict (or even guess) how it will play out. Early signs are obviously that Canelo won't be pushed around, which would leave DAZN in a kinda awkward position, but it'll be interesting to see how the situation develops.

[boliodogs]

None of these fighters were approved for Canelo. His two options were GGG or Kovalev. So he has to vacate the belt & GGG is given the option to fight for it.

And once again Andrade isn't approved to fight a top middleweight on his own network. And he's a champion



https://theathletic.com/1085158/2019...ely-with-dazn/

It does not say anywhere in all that, that Canelo would not be allowed to fight Andrade or Dervy in September. Until I read that DAZN will not allow Canelo to fight either of them in September I don't believe it. I did read than Canelo only made offers to fight Munguia or Kovalev and never wanted to fight Andrade or Dervy. I think this just you blaming DAZN for Canelo not fighting either of these guys in September when Canelo just did not want to fight either of them now or later.

[Motorcity Cobra]

GBP put out a story early in the negotiations that the sticking point was GGG demanding the fight not happen in Vegas(it was a bs story but it shows that there's lots of details besides the DAZN money involved in putting on a fight) But you're right they won't fight because Alvarez don't want to.
The Andrade fight was DAZN's third choice. Alvarez wasn't interested and GBP never made an official offer to Andrade. Those are the facts. Alvarez ain't fighting cause he don't want to. Typical diva bs.

Because there were only 2 approved fights. Kovalev & GGG

[Motorcity Cobra]

If what you're saying is true why haven't we heard howls of protest from the diva and Oscar?
Maybe I missed it but I haven't heard one word from the diva, Oscar or GBP about the IBF or Deveryenchenko.
No they haven't protested to DAZN or gone public because the diva never intended to fight Deveryencheko.

Canelo spoke loud and clear when he bypassed the September date.

I don't know why y'all don't see this as a bigger deal than what it really is. Canelo giving up 1 of the 2 most coveted and profitable dates is a big deal.