Comments Thread For: Andre Ward is Not Convinced Yarde is Ready For Sergey Kovalev

[Boxing_1013]

Still salty? 2 - 0.

Do you really think Ward won the first fight? lol that one was just a really obvious hometown decision...hard to see how people can really see that one for Andre imo.

2nd fight was more competitive..but rd by rd it was a similar 5-2 type score for Kovalev before the 8th round...I don't really have a big opinion on what happened there...I think Kov should have handled it better...but also it will always be an asterisk type fight for Andre with what happened...especially with his history of that type of fouling/fighting dirty.

Kind of a shame it ended that way...I don't think he had necessarily done enough to get DQd in that fight, probably penalized though...but a lot of shots to the body were clean on Kov and the way it ended with those clearly low shots kind of took away a chance for him to get a real decisive great comeback win after the first fight.

[apollocreed]

Do you really think Ward won the first fight? lol that one was just a really obvious hometown decision...hard to see how people can really see that one for Andre imo.

2nd fight was more competitive..but rd by rd it was a similar 5-2 type score for Kovalev before the 8th round...I don't really have a big opinion on what happened there...I think Kov should have handled it better...but also it will always be an asterisk type fight for Andre with what happened...especially with his history of that type of fouling/fighting dirty.

Kind of a shame it ended that way...I don't think he had necessarily done enough to get DQd in that fight, probably penalized though...but a lot of shots to the body were clean on Kov and the way it ended with those clearly low shots kind of took away a chance for him to get a real decisive great comeback win after the first fight.

I think the first fight, Ward won by a round or two. From round three Ward was outlanding. The second one the blows were clean to me. Kov just folded. We know what has come out since about him not training hard, not living well and being susceptible to body shots.
Ward wobbled him badly from a big right to the jaw and then finished with the body attack. Kov never recovered from the right hand. Ward would likely still have stopped him in the later rounds even if Kov made it out of that round.

[ruedboy]

Yarde's trainer had a recent interview , where he said Yarde was more skilled than Ward. No way Andre was letting that go by.

[ruedboy]

Do you really think Ward won the first fight? lol that one was just a really obvious hometown decision...hard to see how people can really see that one for Andre imo.

2nd fight was more competitive..but rd by rd it was a similar 5-2 type score for Kovalev before the 8th round...I don't really have a big opinion on what happened there...I think Kov should have handled it better...but also it will always be an asterisk type fight for Andre with what happened...especially with his history of that type of fouling/fighting dirty.

Kind of a shame it ended that way...I don't think he had necessarily done enough to get DQd in that fight, probably penalized though...but a lot of shots to the body were clean on Kov and the way it ended with those clearly low shots kind of took away a chance for him to get a real decisive great comeback win after the first fight.

Ward knew he lost the first fight and Kovalev knew he had won. The irony of that was Kovalev got complacent and Ward got determined to raise his game for the second fight. Ward trained his azz off and fought the fight of his life.
I think Ward would have won without fouling but when he knew Weeks was giving him a pass on borderline shots, he just couldn't resist taking advantage.

[Boxing_1013]

Ward knew he lost the first fight and Kovalev knew he had won. The irony of that was Kovalev got complacent and Ward got determined to raise his game for the second fight. Ward trained his azz off and fought the fight of his life.
I think Ward would have won without fouling but when he knew Weeks was giving him a pass on borderline shots, he just couldn't resist taking advantage.

I more or less agree with ya...Ward was much better from the start in the second fight...and those rounds were competitive...but Kov was still outlanding him in almost every round...Andre was landing some good shots too and it obviously isn't just about counting punches...but yeah I still think Kov was ahead before the stoppage in fight 2...but I do agree about Kov's complacency and Ward's determination there too

[Vlad_]

I think the first fight, Ward won by a round or two. From round three Ward was outlanding. The second one the blows were clean to me. Kov just folded. We know what has come out since about him not training hard, not living well and being susceptible to body shots.
Ward wobbled him badly from a big right to the jaw and then finished with the body attack. Kov never recovered from the right hand. Ward would likely still have stopped him in the later rounds even if Kov made it out of that round.

Outlanding in first fight? Kovalev was outboxing and outlanding Ward in practically every round. Anything other than 9-3 or 8-4 for Kovalev in their first fight is simply fanboy judging.

Clean blows in the second? Seriously?

Are you playing mental gymnastics to this level?

[harry-greb]

Lol at Ward winning 3 of the first 6 rounds...that's funny dude, good one...maybe in the whole fight I could see him getting 3.

Ward had a similar oh sh.it moment in round 1 so I am sure Yarde will feel that power as well...in his defense he has been fighting at this weight for his whole career so he is at least used to being in with 175 pounders...but yeah none that likely hit near as hard as Kov...then again Ward wasn't properly prepared for that jab/power either so I appreciate you pointing that out...kind of proves my point

Yeah the jab jolted ward in the first and he had a torrid second, but kovalevs power didn't trouble him the rest of the fight.
Ward took the 3rd 4th and 5th.
I've already had this debate with another guy in here. There's a myth that kovalev dominated the first 6 rounds. It's just not true

[Boxing_1013]

Yeah the jab jolted ward in the first and he had a torrid second, but kovalevs power didn't trouble him the rest of the fight.
Ward took the 3rd 4th and 5th.
I've already had this debate with another guy in here. There's a myth that kovalev dominated the first 6 rounds. It's just not true

Hey just give him the 1st 2nd and 6th while you're at it...I could see 12-0 for Dre lol.

But yeah seriously...no offense man but I can't really take anything you say seriously on boxing if that is your take...thanks for putting it out there though and I wish ya lots of luck, sincerely.

[Boxing_1013]

Outlanding in first fight? Kovalev was outboxing and outlanding Ward in practically every round. Anything other than 9-3 or 8-4 for Kovalev in their first fight is simply fanboy judging.

Clean blows in the second? Seriously?

Are you playing mental gymnastics to this level?

Vlad I was going to respond to that post but I honestly just ended up shrugging my shoulders and moving on...if people can really try and rationalize Ward winning a lot of rounds (in either fight really, but especially the first)...I mean I just can't really take them seriously...not trying to be rude though.

I gave Ward 4 rounds in the first fight and I felt that night I was being very generous to him tbh...I could see 9-3 and think 8-3-1 or something was maybe the ideal score that night...getting to 5 rounds for Andre is a little kooky...6 is sad...7 is just...well I mean it just didn't happen lol.

There's no real basis for it and honestly I can deal with a lot of different opinions on here...but if someone is really putting out that narrative that he deserved to win...I mean I just can't really take seriously anything they say on boxing unfortunately.

[harry-greb]

Outlanding in first fight? Kovalev was outboxing and outlanding Ward in practically every round. Anything other than 9-3 or 8-4 for Kovalev in their first fight is simply fanboy judging.

Clean blows in the second? Seriously?

Are you playing mental gymnastics to this level?

Tell me, which rounds did kovalev out land ward???
Ward outlanded kov in the 3rd 5th 7th 8th 9th and 11th rounds.