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  • rickJen
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    #71
    Originally posted by NeloVsGGG-8
    well if DAZN is sending an offer it's obvious Charlo has to cross the street. Crossing the street doesn't mean the fighter is permanently removed from his previous hosting, Showtime. A single or multi-fight deal is no different than previous PBC fighters having fought elsewhere only to return back to their normal location.

    The point of exclusivity is to grow or maintain retention for a certain network. We don't know how Espinoza and Haymon roll behind closed doors. It could very well be that Espinoza tells Haymon that if Wilder were to fight on another platform then they'd reevaluate agreements.

    As usual, platform Wars. Had Wilder fought Breazeale and AJ on DAZN for $100mil who do you think Benefits from that?

    But I agree with you, Charlo doesn't have to, but it shows who is serious.
    The point doe is fans need to know who wants the fight.
    DAZN needs to specify who they have in mind for Charlo, for example.
    Stop this two-fight deals like the Breazeale/AJ for Wilder nonsense.
    Even that takes time, possibly a year, which makes PBC fighters homesick.
    Do one fight at a time.
    Fans can't accuse fighters of ducking until offers are officially made.
    If Golovkin doesn't want it, then publicize the negotiations, how it went,
    and start shaming the guy.

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    • ruedboy
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      #72
      Corrupt organizations like the WBC (and the other alphabets) are what make boxing a joke and a fringe sport in the US.
      Decisions like the WBC making Alvarez a "Franchise Champ" are terrible for the sport.
      Imagine if the NBA made Lebron James a "Franchise Champ"? What a joke!
      How can the WBC, which is supposed to make the rules, have a business relationship with Avarez?
      Sure, DAZN has too much influence but so did HBO, Showtime and other promoters but they have that influence because the boxing orgs are corrupt, greedy and not accountable to anyone.

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      • maguirre
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        #73
        Originally posted by NeloVsGGG-8
        Had Wilder fought Breazeale and AJ on DAZN for $100mil who do you think Benefits from that?
        Didn't you just see how AJ got summarily clipped by Ruiz? You still don't realize how ****** these multi-fight deals are?

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          #74
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules
          - -I like Kathy Duva as a small promoter, but she and Kov blew it by not demanding equity in the first Son of Gollum fight that left them paupers in the rematch.

          Now they're being greedy...can't fix ******!
          Kov is getting really bad advice. How does he turn down a fight against the biggest star in boxing. He is 2 divisions higher, taller, harder puncher, he has all the advantages. And he will be making more than he made in 2 Ward fights. 15 yrs ago a fighter would jump at the chance. In boxing it used to be a fighter seeking out that one big payday versus a big star. Nowadays fighters purposely price themselves out and seem not to care about fighting the biggest star in the sport and making a ton of money. Some fighters are ****** and some are just blind in their allegiance to their promoter/manager.

          It is as if boxing lives in bizarro world. Look what happened to Wilder. He was demanding ridiculous amounts of money for Joshua. In reality he was offered a huge sum of money, more than he was worth and he still turned it down. Now Wilder will never see half that amount and for sure not the amount he demanded now that Joshua is spoiled goods. What a ****** decision. That is the kind of decision in which you fire your whole team, but Wilder lives in fantasyland. it is as if all of PBC's fighters believe they will be the next Mayweather and they all deserve Mayweather money. In reality in 10 yrs a bunch of those guys will be broke and suing Al Haymon. As for Kov I cannot imagine why his team would turn down and toss out a winning lottery ticket.

          As for DAZN they are overpaying GGG, Fourteen million to fight Rolls. That has to be a record in all of boxing history. Pure insanity!
          Last edited by jdp28tx; 07-20-2019, 07:27 AM.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #75
            Originally posted by maguirre
            Didn't you just see how AJ got summarily clipped by Ruiz? You still don't realize how ****** these multi-fight deals are?
            That's boxing dude. Klitschko got steam rolled by Sanders...didn't do anything to his legacy. Lubin, JRock, unexpected stoppages...

            That has nothing to do with Multi-fight deals. What was your point?

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            • rickJen
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              #76
              Originally posted by jdp28tx
              Kov is getting really bad advice. How does he turn down a fight against the biggest star in boxing. He is 2 divisions higher, taller, harder puncher, he has all the advantages. And he will be making more than he made in 2 Ward fights. 15 yrs ago a fighter would jump at the chance. In boxing it used to be a fighter seeking out that one big payday versus a big star. Nowadays fighters purposely price themselves out and seem not to care about fighting the biggest star in the sport and making a ton of money. Some fighters are ****** and some are just blind in their allegiance to their promoter/manager.

              It is as if boxing lives in bizarro world. Look what happened to Wilder. He was demanding ridiculous amounts of money for Joshua. In reality he was offered a huge sum of money, more than he was worth and he still turned it down. Now Wilder will never see half that amount and for sure not the amount he demanded now that Joshua is spoiled goods. What a ****** decision. That is the kind of decision in which you fire your whole team, but Wilder lives in fantasyland. it is as if all of PBC's fighters believe they will be the next Mayweather and they all deserve Mayweather money. In reality in 10 yrs a bunch of those guys will be broke and suing Al Haymon. As for Kov I cannot imagine why his team would turn down and toss out a winning lottery ticket.
              You basically highlighted the points of this thread.
              The Kovalev example right at the beginning, etc.
              In Wilder's case he not only turned down huge money,
              but the 3 titles that were on the line.
              Ruiz is now in possession of them and stands to make more retirement money as a result.
              Titles don't even mean anything now in boxing.

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              • jdp28tx
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                #77
                Originally posted by NeloVsGGG-8
                That's boxing dude. Klitschko got steam rolled by Sanders...didn't do anything to his legacy. Lubin, JRock, unexpected stoppages...

                That has nothing to do with Multi-fight deals. What was your point?
                Maguirre,

                Don't respond to this dude. He is a total ignoramus. Someone letting their blind, brain damaged pet monkey, type on their computer keyboard for an hour would come out with posts that make better points and make more sense than NeloVsGGG's posts.

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                • Thuglife Nelo
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by jdp28tx
                  Maguirre,

                  Don't respond to this dude. He is a total ignoramus. Someone letting their blind, brain damaged pet monkey, type on their computer keyboard for an hour would come out with posts that make better points and make more sense than NeloVsGGG's posts.
                  ''multi-fight deals'' doe.

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                  • rickJen
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                    #79
                    DAZN needs to get rid of this Skipper fella.

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                    • rickJen
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by maguirre
                      Didn't you just see how AJ got summarily clipped by Ruiz? You still don't realize how ****** these multi-fight deals are?
                      Exactly. DAZN needs to be contacting Jermall Charlo for the GGG fight.
                      If GGG don't want it, DAZN needs to start throwing this guy under the bus.

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