Is DAZN destroying boxing?

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  • saintpat
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    #61
    Originally posted by genrick
    Good point doe.
    DAZN needs to fire this Skipper fella.
    They need someone with innovative, strategizing spirit.
    Not just someone who throws away money.
    Throwing away money is too damn easy, especially if you have freedom to do so.
    Anybody can do it.
    Skipper’s job is not to make the boxing division work.

    His job is to land major American pro sports league content. Without it, Dazn cannot survive in the long run in the USA.

    They wanted to launch so they put money into boxing because that’s the only sport they could ‘own’ — or thought they could — to build a base subscriber base. They’re intentionally throwing good money after bad to get people in the US exposed to their service and carve a niche in the market. Having Canelo fights and, they hoped, major heavyweight bouts would give them some viability and get the public to know they existed.

    I expect they wanted bigger returns than they’ve had but they’ve at least got a start.

    If and when they get NFL/MLB/NBA/NHL content — or even snag some major college conference action — when various contracts run out, that’s when we’ll see if their gamble pays off and they can become a major player.

    And if they do, you can count on the boxing content to take a back burner and Dazn to shift funds away from it ... pay off or play out remaining contracts, show some Euro stuff they’re paying for already for other markets and whatnot, but it will be a small and unimportant slice of their pie.

    Skipper was an ESPN guy and he’s done deals with the major sport en****** in the USA. He gets Dazn to the bargaining table for the content it really wants.

    This service was not created because they thought they could sink a billion $$$ into boxing and make a few billion back. It was started to compete with ESPN and the major networks for major sports.

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    • Murderopolis
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      #62
      DAZN isn't hurting or helping boxing.

      Boxing is not dying or dead, but it's just chronically sick. It'll always be sick, with a broken system. With or without DAZN.

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      • Bundt
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        #63
        A Canelo failure won’t cripple DAZN. Canelos earnings will be impacted though. He will not be getting that kind of money from Disney/ESPN. Both sides will agree to a sensible opponent for Canelo to fight.

        Make no mistake, he will only fight name brand fighters going forth to ensure the parent company gets their return on investment.

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        • rickJen
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          #64
          Originally posted by maguirre
          Not all fighters object to it. You must mean certain fighters should not be forced to sign such deals if they only want certain fights.
          I'll get back to you when I have time with this multi-fight deals topic.
          I'm saying focus on only one fight at a time, basically.
          Stop forcing fighters like Wilder or Charlo, for example, to sign multi-fight deals when they obviously want to stay with their uncle Al.
          DAZN should be sending offers to Charlo for the Andrade or Golovkin fight like right now.
          Let's see who doesn't want it.
          Basically don't give them an excuse not to fight.

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            #65
            Originally posted by genrick
            I'll get back to you when I have time with this multi-fight deals topic.
            I'm saying focus on only one fight at a time, basically.
            Stop forcing fighters like Wilder or Charlo, for example, to sign multi-fight deals when they obviously want to stay with their uncle Al.
            DAZN should be sending offers to Charlo for the Andrade or Golovkin fight like right now.
            Let's see who doesn't want it.
            Basically don't give them an excuse not to fight.
            Hearn gave open doors to JErmall. Hearn has a basic idea of which fights DAZN USA would approve...

            Lions Promotions saying it had no problem reaching to Hearn or going a different network might have been Lying Promotions

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            • maguirre
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              #66
              Originally posted by genrick
              I'll get back to you when I have time with this multi-fight deals topic.
              I'm saying focus on only one fight at a time, basically.
              Stop forcing fighters like Wilder or Charlo, for example, to sign multi-fight deals when they obviously want to stay with their uncle Al.
              DAZN should be sending offers to Charlo for the Andrade or Golovkin fight like right now.
              Let's see who doesn't want it.
              Basically don't give them an excuse not to fight.
              Hearn had sent offers to the Charlos, Davis, Wilder, Spence, even Broner, etc. No one signed.

              That's why DAZN needs to stop this nonsense and do something different like on a fight by fight basis. They need to specify which fighter they want for Charlo, for instance. Who do they want for Davis, etc. Then make the offer. The opponent doesn't have to be a DAZN fighter.

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              • rickJen
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                #67
                Golovkin vs Jermall
                Golovkin vs Andrade
                Andrade vs Charlo
                Canelo vs Andrade
                Canelo vs Charlo

                These are all good fights, yet with all the money they have
                all they wanna do is a freaking trilogy which fans have already seen twice.

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                • rickJen
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by maguirre
                  Hearn had sent offers to the Charlos, Davis, Wilder, Spence, even Broner, etc. No one signed.

                  That's why DAZN needs to stop this nonsense and do something different like on a fight by fight basis. They need to specify which fighter they want for Charlo, for instance. Who do they want for Davis, etc. Then make the offer. The opponent doesn't have to be a DAZN fighter.
                  Yeah, they're signing PBC fighters without specifying which opponents they have in mind.
                  Which to me only meant they're just going to be showcase fighters like they already are at PBC.
                  They should be sending offers to Charlo for Andrade or Golovkin.
                  Charlo doesn't have to sign multi-fight deals or cross the street.
                  This is important to fans so they know who really wants the fight.
                  As ducking will only become official when lucrative offers are turned down.
                  The sport can't move on like this.

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by genrick
                    Charlo doesn't have to sign multi-fight deals or cross the street.
                    This is important to fans so they know who really wants the fight.
                    As ducking will only become official when lucrative offers are turned down.
                    The sport can't move on like this.
                    well if DAZN is sending an offer it's obvious Charlo has to cross the street. Crossing the street doesn't mean the fighter is permanently removed from his previous hosting, Showtime. A single or multi-fight deal is no different than previous PBC fighters having fought elsewhere only to return back to their normal location.

                    The point of exclusivity is to grow or maintain retention for a certain network. We don't know how Espinoza and Haymon roll behind closed doors. It could very well be that Espinoza tells Haymon that if Wilder were to fight on another platform then they'd reevaluate agreements.

                    As usual, platform Wars. Had Wilder fought Breazeale and AJ on DAZN for $100mil who do you think Benefits from that?

                    But I agree with you, Charlo doesn't have to, but it shows who is serious.

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                    • rickJen
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                      #70
                      Charlo can't fight the Jack Adams of the sport forever.
                      He's the most perfect candidate for DAZN to lure.
                      He can pick from a remarkably good list of fighters like
                      Golovkin, Jacobs, Andrade, forget Canelo.
                      DAZN needs to send the offer NOW, ASAP.

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