Just so the world knows.....

[boliodogs]

You are full of it. Canelo is free to fight Andrade if he wants to. Canelo just doesn't want to fight Andrade and has made no attempts to fight him or sent him any offers to fight. He just wants GGG to fight Andrade for him. Canelo has made offers to Kovalev and Munguia and Oscar has challenged welterweight Spence to come to middleweight to fight Canelo but no offers have ever been made to Andrade. If Canelo arranges a fight with Andrade DAZN will approve it.But as of now Canelo has shown zero interest in fighting Andrade so there is nothing for DAZN to approve. You always talk as if Canelo is this fearless monster who can never lose a fight. You always talk about GGG as the cowardly pos who can't fight much. Actually Canelo and GGG are equally good as fighters. They have the same fighting ability and neither is a better or worse fighter than the other. This was proven in the two very close wars they fought where there is so much disagreement over who won. Any boxer Canelo can beat GGG can also beat. Any boxer who can beat Canelo can also beat GGG.

[boliodogs]

You dont know that they "refused" it. For all you know (which is nothing), Golden Boy has not even submitted Andrade as a possible opponent. You havent the slightest idea.

As usual.

You are absolutely right. No offer has ever been made to Andrade to fight Canelo to date. He doesn't have the slightest idea. He just lives to big up Canelo and trash GGG and DAZN.

[aboutfkntime]

Respectfully disagree. Boxers with small fry promoters like K2 or Dibella can fight their way into a mandatory position and then be forced to sit on the shelf for months or years while they wait for a shot at a big name fighter, but when a guy backed by Al Haymon works his way into a mandatory position, he gets his shot or the champ gets stripped.

And that's exactly what happened. Canelo's the WBC's golden child, so they did this smoke-and-mirrors franchise champion nonsense intentionally to create confusion and make it look like he wasn't simply stripped because he had no plans to fight Charlo, but that's how it went.

Canelo has no mandatory, the belt they gave him has no weight class, and he can't even lose the belt to fighter that beats him. The media has not bought into this story, and writers like Mannix and Rafael have been quick to point out that this new thing is not a credible title and that Canelo was stripped because he isn't fighting Charlo.

He's not undisputed as long as Charlo is the WBC champ.

everything you just said..... I said here.....

great point

hmm.....

my thoughts on that.....

Andrade cannot become undisputed, so..... I have to agree with you, that fight is not for the Undisputed title.....

great point

but, Canelo would hold all of the belts, including the WBC..... and he is the highest ranked WBC middleweight

he is also clearly a better fighter than Charlo, and more worthy of the title 'WBC Champion'

my guess is.....

you are 100% correct, but according to media/fans Canelo will become the Undisputed middleweight champion.... because the media/fans love cool stories, and because Canelo will be the highest ranked WBC middleweight

just like they accepted Golovkin equaling Hopkins record for middleweight defences, despite Golovkin only defending a junior WBA title that did not exist back when Hopkins was doing his thing

personally, I don't care if they do hail Canelo as the Undisputed middleweight champion..... but the WBC really did Canelo no favors with that 'Franchise Champion' stupidity

because if Canelo beats Andrade, Charlo really becomes a must-fight opponent for Canelo imho..... considering the fact that Charlo is now a full champion according to the WBC, despite him not actually doing anything

Canelo should fight Charlo..... he should have to, and he should want to..... and it could be a real good fight

great point

also.....

to be honest, it is a two-sided question

phenom is right..... technically, Canelo will not become Undisputed by beating Andrade..... simply because, Andrade cannot become Undisputed by beating Canelo

so it makes no sense at all

but what does make perfect sense, is dropping the word "technically" from the sentence above..... because anything that follows the word "technically" is usually bullshlt.....and replacing it with the word "realistically"

realistically, Canelo is the highest ranked WBC middleweight..... he is a much better fighter than Charlo..... and he is much more worthy of the title WBC champion

but imho, forget the titles and all that bullshlt..... Canelo would need to fight Charlo because he would be the last remaining threat at 160

no big deal if that fight doesn't happen..... but that could be the best remaining fight left on the table, I have no problem with it

I had no idea the subject was being so widely debated

someone should make a poll

I agree with you.....

* Andrade cannot become undisputed by beating Canelo..... so how can Canelo become undisputed by beating Andrade?

* Charlo is currently the WBC Champion, as per the WBC

the problem is this.....

FACT: Canelo IS the highest ranked WBC middleweight
FACT: Canelo IS a much better fighter than Charlo
FACT: Canelo is much more deserving of the title 'WBC Champion'

Canelo beat Golovkin, and he is currently the best middleweight on the planet..... EVERYONE know that..... NOBODY believes that Charlo is more deserving, or a better fighter, than Canelo

the deniers..... simply do not like Canelo, so will fly with the WBC Franchise "technicality"..... but the media/fans will decide unfortunately

this will be another situation where you/I, are sitting there wondering what the fk just happened..... as the media/fans proclaim that Canelo is the undisputed middleweight champion of the world.....

just like the media/fans insisted that Golovkin equaled Hopkins record for middleweight defences by defending a junior WBA title that did not even exist back when Hopkins was doing his thing

it will happen, whether you and I like it or not

stay strong bro

[aboutfkntime]

You are full of it. Canelo is free to fight Andrade if he wants to. Canelo just doesn't want to fight Andrade and has made no attempts to fight him or sent him any offers to fight. He just wants GGG to fight Andrade for him. Canelo has made offers to Kovalev and Munguia and Oscar has challenged welterweight Spence to come to middleweight to fight Canelo but no offers have ever been made to Andrade. If Canelo arranges a fight with Andrade DAZN will approve it.But as of now Canelo has shown zero interest in fighting Andrade so there is nothing for DAZN to approve. You always talk as if Canelo is this fearless monster who can never lose a fight. You always talk about GGG as the cowardly pos who can't fight much. Actually Canelo and GGG are equally good as fighters. They have the same fighting ability and neither is a better or worse fighter than the other. This was proven in the two very close wars they fought where there is so much disagreement over who won. Any boxer Canelo can beat GGG can also beat. Any boxer who can beat Canelo can also beat GGG.

that is just ignorant rubbish

triangle theories do not work in boxing

it comes down to styles

there is a very good reason why lil'G avoided every single world-class mover/spoiler available..... he never fought one

Sanchez admitted that Golovkin is not the same fighter if his opponent does not stand in front of him

and that is just boxing101, nothing special there

dumb casual

[aboutfkntime]

You are absolutely right. No offer has ever been made to Andrade to fight Canelo to date. He doesn't have the slightest idea. He just lives to big up Canelo and trash GGG and DAZN.

it was widely reported on multiple sites that Gomez made exploratory offers to Kovalev Munguia and Andrade

and Eddie Hearn admitted that the talks took place

peace

no, wait..... I mean..... fcuk you