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  • maguirre
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    #21
    Originally posted by kraftzman
    Haha... that's what I don't get either. If Haymon picked Spence, the anti-Pac brigade would say he avoided Thurman, who is more mobile and more likely to be harder for Pac to chase.

    They still don't get that Pac is too ****** to turn down fights which fans deemed dangerous. Pac and his team have been mentioning Spence long before the Mikey/Spence fight.

    I was hoping for Spence, but Haymon fcks up everything. He's a huge cancer. Spence is mad as hell.
    Some of us can see why Haymon picked Thurman for Pac. It's simple. There'll be nobody there for Thurman and Porter if Haymon chose Spence vs Pac, except a KT vs SP replay, which only a few is interested in seeing. Same thing with DG rematch.

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      #22
      Originally posted by maguirre
      Some of us can see why Haymon picked Thurman for Pac. It's simple. There'll be nobody there for Thurman and Porter if Haymon chose Spence vs Pac, except a KT vs SP replay, which only a few is interested in seeing. Same thing with DG rematch.
      Funny part is everyone assumed Pac avoided Spence. The media don't even bother to ask Pac. But one of these days Spence will break his silence. It's not Pac who made the Thurman fight. It's Haymon.

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        #23
        Originally posted by kraftzman
        Funny part is everyone assumed Pac avoided Spence. The media don't even bother to ask Pac. But one of these days Spence will break his silence. It's not Pac who made the Thurman fight. It's Haymon.
        People also say Pac avoided Crawford, who is not even that big. TC is only 5'8". They missed the fact that it's Arum who protected Crawford like he's his grandson. Arum didn't even dare to pit him against Matthysse or Jessie Vargas, who were very much available for Crawford at that time. Grandpa Bob would rather give Crawford the likes of Dierry Jean, Molina, Lundy, Diaz, etc. The great liar Bob is now saying the exact opposite that he cared for Pac's well-being, which is hogwash.

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          #24
          Originally posted by maguirre
          People also say Pac avoided Crawford, who is not even that big. TC is only 5'8". They missed the fact that it's Arum who protected Crawford like he's his grandson. Arum didn't even dare to pit him against Matthysse or Jessie Vargas, who were very much available for Crawford at that time. Grandpa Bob would rather give Crawford the likes of Dierry Jean, Molina, Lundy, Diaz, etc. The great liar Bob is now saying the exact opposite that he cared for Pac's well-being, which is hogwash.
          The Bobfather didn’t make it 40 years in this business by being honest
          Funny enough or maybe just dumb but Pac would not avoid any of the fore mentioned fighters
          If he would beat any at all is a whole other ballgame

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            #25
            The funny part is that Pac will be by far the toughest fight of runtime's career. The old man is going to beat the tar out of the hippie and then his career will be over.

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            • maguirre
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              #26
              Originally posted by MulaKO
              The Bobfather didn’t make it 40 years in this business by being honest
              Funny enough or maybe just dumb but Pac would not avoid any of the fore mentioned fighters
              If he would beat any at all is a whole other ballgame
              Bob Arum:

              "Peter Nelson insist that he fights with ....

              That's what people don't understand. You have to build up fighters not by putting him on medi... putting him against good fighters who they then overwhelm and look good. Now... Nelson doesn't have that vision and I'm not gonna let him screw up our prospects by taking away from us what is our great strenght and that's the ability to match-make. And if that means frequently not on HBO, that's too bad we'll find a way.

              Speaking of Crawford, do you have an opponent in mind for that defense?

              Well, again, we're gonna put Crawford in with a man we believe will give Crawford a very good fight, which will be an exciting fight for the people in south Florida.

              Nelson has some ideas of who Crawford should fight and if he persists in his ideas and HBO continues to back him. Then we'll take Crawford elsewhere.
              In other words, we are a company that prides ourselves in putting on fights and match-making and we're not gonna let somebody else come in and do what we do best. Now, HBO is paying us money that fights on HBO, so they have the right and obligation to reject any fight that we give them, but they're not gonna match-make for me. Look what happened on June 27...we needed after Soto fell out, Beltran fell out, we needed a co-feature, so...



              "...Nelson doesn't have that vision and I'm not gonna let him screw up our prospects by taking away from us what is our great strength and that's the ability to match-make. And if that means frequently not on HBO, that's too bad we'll find a way."
              Last edited by maguirre; 07-07-2019, 10:19 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by maguirre
                Bob Arum:

                "Peter Nelson insist that he fights with ....

                That's what people don't understand. You have to build up fighters not by putting him on medi... putting him against good fighters who they then overwhelm and look good. Now... Nelson doesn't have that vision and I'm not gonna let him screw up our prospects by taking away from us what is our great strenght and that's the ability to match-make. And if that means frequently not on HBO, that's too bad we'll find a way.

                Speaking of Crawford, do you have an opponent in mind for that defense?

                Well, again, we're gonna put Crawford in with a man we believe will give Crawford a very good fight, which will be an exciting fight for the people in south Florida.

                Nelson has some ideas of who Crawford should fight and if he persists in his ideas and HBO continues to back him. Then we'll take Crawford elsewhere.
                In other words, we are a company that prides ourselves in putting on fights and match-making and we're not gonna let somebody else come in and do what we do best. Now, HBO is paying us money that fights on HBO, so they have the right and obligation to reject any fight that we give them, but they're not gonna match-make for me. Look what happened on June 27...we needed after Soto fell out, Beltran fell out, we needed a co-feature, so...



                "...Nelson doesn't have that vision and I'm not gonna let him screw up our prospects by taking away from us what is our great strength and that's the ability to match-make. And if that means frequently not on HBO, that's too bad we'll find a way."

                The Bobfather just knows how to bullchit and run around the bush
                I actually like watching the man spit chit out and five days later totally go against his own
                But kudos to him for having a very successful career

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                • yoshik
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Tutsa
                  Errol only has him self to blame !!!!! He had Legend manny at his fight so he should’ve gave Mikey some rounds or even get hurt or a quick knock down . He decided to show he was going to kill MG not give him a round .considering Mikey is ten years younger same size great IQ in boxing and skills . PAC entered the ring said yeah sure why not but his team said **** no his to big for you . Maybe KT is smarter then them all and had Lopez look like a tough fight purposely looked weak so team pac picked him .
                  LOL...Manny would SMOKE Mikey right now. Today. Do not underestimate Manny. His footwork will constantly cut off Merman Thurman.

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                  • Bullrider
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by maguirre
                    People also say Pac avoided Crawford, who is not even that big. TC is only 5'8". They missed the fact that it's Arum who protected Crawford like he's his grandson. Arum didn't even dare to pit him against Matthysse or Jessie Vargas, who were very much available for Crawford at that time. Grandpa Bob would rather give Crawford the likes of Dierry Jean, Molina, Lundy, Diaz, etc. The great liar Bob is now saying the exact opposite that he cared for Pac's well-being, which is hogwash.
                    HBO probably wanted Matthysse vs Crawford, instead of Postol vs Matthysse, which is a surefire for stinking up the ratings. Two unknown foreigners gracing precious time slots on HBO. They also wanted Pac for Crawford. Arum said no again. Arum and Haymon are both cancers in the sport of boxing.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by lutenco
                      Spence is fighting a Thurman's leftover......see how it goes!
                      Thurman beat also a undefeated Danny Garcia in a unification fight,right after Porter....say Spence and Crawford to do the same, then we'll see who is the weakest link.
                      Thurman BARELY beat Porter or Garcia. All three of them are far from elite when the unit of measurement is the names on Pacs Record. Pac also has two fewer losses on his record as well. Bradley, and that that d ic k from Australia what's his name? Horn.

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