Today's heavyweight scene is brilliant, but they need to fight

[juggernaut666]

Not since the Mike Tyson/Oscar De La Hoya era have I been more excited about Boxing than for MMA... and in large part its because of the current Heavyweight division.

It was already great... Fury, Wilder, Joshua... and then Andy Ruiz broke everything wide open. Ever since then, I've been on Boxing more than MMA.

New age fans don't know how good they have it and they have 2 undefeated top guys still and only 2 guys out of prime in top 10 who are Povetkin and Ortiz ...well 3 ..Pulev.


This is the youngest and largest stacked HW division ever but ...well it must suck bc that's what boxing fans say...lol

[Santa_]

Snicker Destroyer Ruiz will fight Wilder after he whoops AJ again you just have to be patient. The future is bright for the Heavyweight division.

[USMCer]

Here are some HW matchups I want to see...

Fury vs AJ
Fury vs Andy Ruiz
Fury vs Wilder II
Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk
Fury vs Dillian Whyte

Andy Ruiz vs AJ II
Andy Ruiz vs Wilder
Andy Ruiz vs Alexander Povetkin
Andy Ruiz vs Jarrell Miller
Andy Ruiz vs Luis Ortiz

Wilder vs AJ
Wilder vs Jarrell Miller
Wilder vs Dillian Whyte
Wilder vs Adam Kownacki

AJ vs Dillian Whyte
AJ vs Jarrell Miller
AJ vs Oleksandr Usyk

Whyte vs Luis Ortiz
Whyte vs Alexander Povetkin

Jarrell Miller vs Kubrat Pulev
Jarrell Miller vs Luis Ortiz
Jarrell Miller vs Adam Kownacki

Povetkin vs Oleksandr Usyk
Povetkin vs Oscar Rivas

Usyk vs Joseph Parker

Luis Ortiz vs Alexander Povetkin

Kubrat Pulev vs Oscar Rivas



Lets put these Up-n-Comers and Prospects to the test...


Joseph Parker vs Daniel Dubois

Adam Kownacki vs Joe Joyce

Oscar Rivas vs Tony Yoka

Hughie Fury vs Chris Arreola

Dominic Breazeale vs Efe Ajagba

Gerald Washington vs Filip Hrgovic

Tyrone Spong vs Nathan Gorman

[Justintimothyko]

Great post!!!

Fury, wilder, Ruiz, Joshua, Ortiz, usyk, whyte, Parker at the top...

Then you've got a handful of fringe contenders like Allen, price, arreola, chisora, as well as some names I'm forgetting.

You've got undefeated fighters like kownacki n Rivas who could turn out to be special.

Then you've ggotblue chip prospects such as dubois, Gorman, efe, n a few others I'm forgetting.

Even if you aren't excited about this crop, just be GRATEFUL it's not 2004 when John Ruiz, lamon Brewster, n Chris Byrd were champs. Those days were terrible, n the division is in such better shape nowadays.

[Fanofreason]

Wilder and Joshua. Fury and Joshua. Anyone and Whyte. It's weird that Ortiz has only fought one top name.

Joshua is the one not making fights.

Ruiz needs to eliminate AJ from the equation, and then it’s gonna be a hell of a time cause they all will fight.

Just need Hearn out of equation.

[Idunnoshet]

Joshua is the one not making fights.

Ruiz needs to eliminate AJ from the equation, and then it’s gonna be a hell of a time cause they all will fight.

Just need Hearn out of equation.

I get what you're saying but I think the opposite is true .
The Ruiz loss could potentialy just be a bump in the road. Losing to Ruiz a second time is the equivalent of the wheels falling off .
Because of that and the possibility of losing again I think Hearn will rush to make the Wilder fight next .
Ruiz will still be a name and can get Fury , his rematch with Parker or even fight with Joyce who's been talking shet about him .

Point is . I see more possibilities for good match ups in the HW division if AJ wins the rematch .
If he loses he either goes on a U.K bum smashing tour or retires to an island and tends to his garden .
Which is Not good for the division .

[Fanofreason]

I get what you're saying but I think the opposite is true .
The Ruiz loss could potentialy just be a bump in the road. Losing to Ruiz a second time is the equivalent of the wheels falling off .
Because of that and the possibility of losing again I think Hearn will rush to make the Wilder fight next .
Ruiz will still be a name and can get Fury , his rematch with Parker or even fight with Joyce who's been talking shet about him .

Point is . I see more possibilities for good match ups in the HW division if AJ wins the rematch .
If he loses he either goes on a U.K bum smashing tour or retires to an island and tends to his garden .
Which is Not good for the division .

AJ will not fight Wilder Fury and Ortiz. AJ needs to be eliminated from the equation.

[QueensburyRules]

I don't think that today's heavyweights are as good as the heavyweights of the past. But we can't put Wilder in with Holyfield, or Fury in with Lewis, so it doesn't matter.

What we have in Fury, Wilder, Joshua, Whyte, Ortiz and now Ruiz, with Usyk to come, is a roster of heavyweights with massively different physical attributes and skill sets. The triangle theory will not work here and I genuinely don't believe any of them beats any other ten times out of ten, except maybe Fury against Ruiz and Usyk because of the size difference.

So I don't give a **** about who's overhyped or whatever, the important thing is that they just fight. A defeat should not be the end of the world to any of these fighters. Wilder is not a bum because he got outboxed by Fury, because he could still KO the rest of them, and he could even KO Fury in a rematch. Joshua is still a top level heavyweight even though Ruiz smashed him around the ring, because he could still beat all of them.

It's a great time for heavyweight boxing. Just ****ing fight.

- -Does that make you dip....?

[Idunnoshet]

AJ will not fight Wilder Fury and Ortiz. AJ needs to be eliminated from the equation.

Do you honestly think AJ won't fight those guys if he beats Ruiz ?

I think Hearns smart enough of a business man than to leave all that money on the table .
Plus who will AJ fight ?
And will the Paying public accept it ?

[493dart]

Wilder would beat Holyfield, and Fury would beat Lewis.

Hilarious! Holy would get inside on wilder and ko him

NONE of the modern guys would beat Lewis