Comments Thread For: Whyte Explains What Joshua Did Wrong, How To Beat Andy Ruiz

[Sosay]

Dude talks too much!

[Rayzah]

Really Whyte? Smh, double Jab the smaller guy? Just to think he is a professional fighter...really ****** advice when a single jab coming from the big man would be far more affective and leave u less open for a counter.

[Phenom]

What about dat clinch game tho?
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I'm stealing this

[1hourRun]

I'm stealing this

[JERMELL_CHARLO_]

Ruiz would TKO u as well.

[Califire209]

AJ won the first two rounds on all three judges’ scorecards.

They also had AJ winning the fight by the 7th round

[landotter]

"allowed Ruiz"??? "... will get the best AJ"???

You are delusional. AJ doesn't and didn't "ALLOW" Ruiz to do anything ... before, after, or during the fight. The wonderful thing about boxing is that all PRIVILEGE goes out the window in the ring. AJ is just a fighter like everyone else ... not the 2nd coming of Ali.

Per getting the best AJ, he beat the BEST AJ. The only difference will be the surprise/respect factors. AJ will not be surprised this time ... he knows if he messes up Ruiz will beat his a$$ down. And AJ will go into the fight with a lot more healthy respect for his opponent (something that was lacking BIGTIME in all of team hearn/aj/girlyfans).

AJ is a great fighter, he had chances to win the 1st time and will have chances in the rematch too. But it is far from a given. He has more chances to lose than win. Ruiz didn't reveal everything in that fight, he didn't need to. And AJ still may not realize: this fight could be a war for all 12 rounds!

Fighting tall is a good idea for AJ, but it doesn't guarantee anything. Ruiz has always been shorter, and has fought many that fought tall. Ruiz is a ****er with lots of skill. He will find a way to **** unless you run (Parker).

AJ is gonna have to be ready to fight a war and win. He may get a good combo in, hurt and eventually stop Ruiz. But if anyone is counting on that, chances are good you will be dissapointed. If AJ banks on that he will probably lose again.

If AJ isn't prepared to have a serious fight, **** and get ******, fight through and win ... he's gonna lose. Goes for anyone else fighting Ruiz too, unless they can drop a bomb and hurt him big.

First of all, there is nothing delusional about what I said, you are just taking it out of context. Joshua walked right in the middle of that ring, offered zero excuses, and gave all the props in the world to Ruiz for beating him. In the weeks that followed, there were rumors of injury or sickness in his camp, depression, and Joshua having emotional breakdowns. Joshua would have none of it, saying pure and simple Ruiz won. He was fine, at his physical peak right as he planned to be, and Ruiz defeated him pure and simple. No excuses. "Allowing" Ruiz to enjoy his upset, historic win. No controversy, no blow back, no making the tours around boxing circles saying he had stubbed his big toe and that distracted him and some such nonsense so many other beaten favorites have done. The spotlight was always on the new champ as it should have been. Joshua deserves credit for that.

Secondly, I appreciate you giving Joshua props, but if anyone is being hailed as the second coming of Ali, it is Ruiz. This is NOT an unbeatable guy here. I could care less about his body style because he has shown he can fight 12 rounds at a high level. But he is not overly nimble. He is available to hit, and he depends on his excellent inside game to win. So many people are piling on his bandwagon, just gleeful Joshua got beat. It is beyond me.

Joshua can be robotic. He can forget to move his head, can very stiff when he is not moving forward or backward. His hand speed is not the best among the HW, that is for sure. These weaknesses played very well into Ruiz' strengths. I will say Ruiz should be the favorite for the rematch. But Joshua is not all of a sudden a scrub. He is still a champion caliber fighter with one of the better records in this current crop of fighters. He has a new challenge to overcome is all. I just feel he will respond, come out more prepared, and I feel a motivated Joshua will win. I do NOT think Ruiz will just slid in at will to the inside if Joshua boxes patiently and with power, and that is what Ruiz needs to score and win. Joshua has more ways to win than Ruiz does. He just cannot be impatient or stationary with Ruiz.

Again, your post was fair. My original post was in response to the general glee of boxers, experts, and fans at his loss and the elevation of Ruiz.

[Tobi.G]

This is exactly right blue print but the problem is AJ can’t learn to be Ali in 5 months ( work of the jab and dance circles in the ring ) AJ gets down to 225 he has half a chance but when you put on all that muscle taking it of weakness you . So he is ****ed unless he land the perfect 3 punch combo

I think 225 is to low for him, 235 would be a good Weight.

[whoseyourdaddy]

Okay... THAT is funny!!

No that’s totally the truth, a guy who lost to the guy you referring to, has no place giving advice on how to beat the conqueror of your conqueror plain ******.

[MastaBlasta]

First of all, there is nothing delusional about what I said, you are just taking it out of context. Joshua walked right in the middle of that ring, offered zero excuses, and gave all the props in the world to Ruiz for beating him. In the weeks that followed, there were rumors of injury or sickness in his camp, depression, and Joshua having emotional breakdowns. Joshua would have none of it, saying pure and simple Ruiz won. He was fine, at his physical peak right as he planned to be, and Ruiz defeated him pure and simple. No excuses. "Allowing" Ruiz to enjoy his upset, historic win. No controversy, no blow back, no making the tours around boxing circles saying he had stubbed his big toe and that distracted him and some such nonsense so many other beaten favorites have done. The spotlight was always on the new champ as it should have been. Joshua deserves credit for that.

Secondly, I appreciate you giving Joshua props, but if anyone is being hailed as the second coming of Ali, it is Ruiz. This is NOT an unbeatable guy here. I could care less about his body style because he has shown he can fight 12 rounds at a high level. But he is not overly nimble. He is available to hit, and he depends on his excellent inside game to win. So many people are piling on his bandwagon, just gleeful Joshua got beat. It is beyond me.

Joshua can be robotic. He can forget to move his head, can very stiff when he is not moving forward or backward. His hand speed is not the best among the HW, that is for sure. These weaknesses played very well into Ruiz' strengths. I will say Ruiz should be the favorite for the rematch. But Joshua is not all of a sudden a scrub. He is still a champion caliber fighter with one of the better records in this current crop of fighters. He has a new challenge to overcome is all. I just feel he will respond, come out more prepared, and I feel a motivated Joshua will win. I do NOT think Ruiz will just slid in at will to the inside if Joshua boxes patiently and with power, and that is what Ruiz needs to score and win. Joshua has more ways to win than Ruiz does. He just cannot be impatient or stationary with Ruiz.

Again, your post was fair. My original post was in response to the general glee of boxers, experts, and fans at his loss and the elevation of Ruiz.

That's a fair response mostly. I responded the 1st time because some insist that AJ "allows" Ruiz to "enjoy his win". That's a very patronizing comment, that is WAY outside of reality. Whether Joshua made excuses or not (he didn't) reflects on HIM (he does get my respect and admiration for his post fight demeanors). But Ruiz EARNED and TOOK his ability to enjoy his win. AJ does not "allow it".

That's not a privilege a beaten fighter gives to the winner ... no matter who was the favorite or who is more popular. That "allowing" mindset reveals that some believe Ruiz just got lucky or AJ was subpar (he repeatedly says he was not), and Ruiz just happened to get this most wonderful gift ... completely missing that Ruiz trains hard, has an excellent amateur background, is very battle-tested, and has worked his behind off for years training and sparring to be in shape and position to CAUSE the results we all saw in the ring.

Most top fighters at HW could not have pulled off what He did. It was not an accident, although that punch high on the head changed a lot, Ruiz throws those punches all the time. This happens in fights where fighters are PROS , PREPARED, and CAPABLE. It's ok to have favorites but real fans understand, these other guys CAN whoop a$$ if your fav isn't careful.

Yes, Ruiz and everyone else CAN be beaten. Ali was beaten. That doesn't change the fact that a fighter is excellent and a tough challenge. Ali was, Ruiz is. Joshua (still) is too. But when AJ was winning and on top Ruiz never "allowed" him anything, and his fans insisted he earned it all (he did). In the same way Ruiz has now earned his, and no matter how anyone feels about it, no one "ALLOWS" him to enjoy his due. He took it and EARNED it.

Good post though, and I appreciate you speaking rationally, sincerely, and decently. You are right that AJ could possibly win the rematch and go forward. I remind folks all the time that these are HW's, these fights are never a given. I admit I've had some glee that the hearn fan-girls were shocked and humbled and have ate a bunch of crow. Hopefully they will be more respectful to other fighters and their fans, there are very few BUMS in boxing.

I think Ruiz has more to show than he did in the fight. He's a tough, relentless fighter with a good motor ... and the ability to fight long and hard ... and still have lethal hands. It will be interesting. If AJ is fully recovered from concussion effects it will again be a 50/50 fight who wins. Most didn't think that going in but I did. At HW, when the opponent is seasoned and capable, the odds are never as bad as the hype-train would have you believe.