If you were DAZN, would you drop Canelo??

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  • Zaryu
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    #21
    Nope, I get the feeling DAZN needs Canelo more than Canelo needs DAZN.

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    • Randall Cunning
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      #22
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      If they are gonna be viable in the US I think they got to eventually.

      They picked up Japanese baseball awhile back & that got them to be a big deal in Japan. I don't think they become a big deal in the US til they got a major sport or two here. And with how they are dividing up rights these days among more platforms then ever I don't think its a crazy thing to suggest they'll acquire them. Its just a matter of when.
      Looks like theyre working on something with the NBA, similar to the MLB thing they do https://sportsbybrooks.com/sources-d...ne-style-show/

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        #23
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
        If they drop Canelo they may as well drop boxing. He is boxing on DAZN.
        He's the draw, for sure. But, I don't know if they're going to see the return on their investment. I think, the DAZN approach is all or nothing. If they fail, it's because they did things like overpaying Canelo. Likewise, if they make it, it's because they were willing to overpay Canelo. I think their future weighs on that risky investment.

        People just assume that having the biggest draw equals success. But, business fail all the time because they over-spent and didn't get their returns.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Randall Cunning
          Looks like theyre working on something with the NBA, similar to the MLB thing they do https://sportsbybrooks.com/sources-d...ne-style-show/
          Interesting, but not surprised DAZN is making moves with more popular sports in any way they can right now.

          As a non-major sports guy is this redzone sh^t something that attracts fans or is it just a novelty thing &/or for people who don't got 3 hrs to spend watching the whole game? Or basically is this something that could pull in fans or is it just filler for now til they do acquire full games as I suspect it is?

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          • sicko
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            #25
            Drop the biggest Draw in boxing and the only Draw on their App Currently? If DAZN was to do something like that they might as well Close their Doors to boxing all together like HBO did

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            • Randall Cunning
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              #26
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              Interesting, but not surprised DAZN is making moves with more popular sports in any way they can right now.

              As a non-major sports guy is this redzone sh^t something that attracts fans or is it just a novelty thing &/or for people who don't got 3 hrs to spend watching the whole game? Or basically is this something that could pull in fans or is it just filler for now til they do acquire full games as I suspect it is?
              It could become handy as time goes on, they need to start filling up more sports though. Theyve got multi-screen coming. So for example, you could be watching boxing on one screen, and have the redzones open on other screens, wired in on all types of ****. But its not a great selling point as it stands.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Randall Cunning
                It could become handy as time goes on, they need to start filling up more sports though. Theyve got multi-screen coming. So for example, you could be watching boxing on one screen, and have the redzones open on other screens, wired in on all types of ****. But its not a great selling point as it stands.
                Oh yea they need SOMETHING thats for sure. You can't sell yourself as something people need when you got as much open air as they do.

                But yea the multiple screens things is a solid idea. I'm the cat over here talking about they need to be adding alternate commentary & allow viewers to pick their own camera angles doe too. So I'm DYING to see some innovation with streaming. I can't wait til they gotta make a streaming content specific remote cuz of the new options.

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                • Motorcity Cobra
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                  He's the draw, for sure. But, I don't know if they're going to see the return on their investment. I think, the DAZN approach is all or nothing. If they fail, it's because they did things like overpaying Canelo. Likewise, if they make it, it's because they were willing to overpay Canelo. I think their future weighs on that risky investment.

                  People just assume that having the biggest draw equals success. But, business fail all the time because they over-spent and didn't get their returns.
                  Ok but if they drop Canelo they should drop GGG as well because they're paying him $100 because they want him to fight Canelo. So without Canelo, GGG is useless to them. And he's not even bringing subs like Canelo

                  I just finished writing a reply to Pandas that kinda mirrors your second point. Having a lot of money in boxing means nothing. The boxing graveyard is littered with people who threw good money after bad trying to spend their way to success. Boxing is so attractive from the outside looking in. Sign the biggest star. Sign his counterpart to fight him. Align yourself with the promoter of the top HW and offer his counterpart big money to join. Listen to that promoter tell you he's going to get you this big list of guys who aren't tied to a promotional company if you give him the money.

                  But what DAZN didn't know, and Hearn didn't know about America, it's not about how much money you have. It's about knowing the intricate politics of boxing. If you don't understand the politics of boxing you're wasting money. WE knew it would be a hassle making Canelo/GGG III because of their history of bad blood. And after the second fight Canelo said that chapter was closed. He went to DAZN to chart his own course for the rest of his career. Now here comes GGG following him and they're trying to make him fight GGG again when that chapter is closed for Canelo.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                    Ok but if they drop Canelo they should drop GGG as well because they're paying him $100 because they want him to fight Canelo. So without Canelo, GGG is useless to them. And he's not even bringing subs like Canelo

                    I just finished writing a reply to Pandas that kinda mirrors your second point. Having a lot of money in boxing means nothing. The boxing graveyard is littered with people who threw good money after bad trying to spend their way to success. Boxing is so attractive from the outside looking in. Sign the biggest star. Sign his counterpart to fight him. Align yourself with the promoter of the top HW and offer his counterpart big money to join. Listen to that promoter tell you he's going to get you this big list of guys who aren't tied to a promotional company if you give him the money.

                    But what DAZN didn't know, and Hearn didn't know about America, it's not about how much money you have. It's about knowing the intricate politics of boxing. If you don't understand the politics of boxing you're wasting money. WE knew it would be a hassle making Canelo/GGG III because of their history of bad blood. And after the second fight Canelo said that chapter was closed. He went to DAZN to chart his own course for the rest of his career. Now here comes GGG following him and they're trying to make him fight GGG again when that chapter is closed for Canelo.
                    The only way GG made sense, at that price, was to get a big fight for Canelo. I think they must be pulling their hair out right now.

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                    • Motorcity Cobra
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Randall Cunning
                      Looks like theyre working on something with the NBA, similar to the MLB thing they do https://sportsbybrooks.com/sources-d...ne-style-show/
                      I remember they got that MLB show & everybody said that was a huge get for them.

                      Yea, a show aimed at an audience whose average viewer has an AARP card on a streaming service. Smart move for sure. That Evan Rutkowski dude was making a big deal out of that.

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