Comments Thread For: Are Canelo, Golden Boy Headed For Standoff With DAZN?

[kushking]

It's not just with this DAZN deal and playing hard to get with another fight with the G, it's also the way he turns proper fights into catchweights, the sometimes or recently all the time he gets a favourible scorecard.
I know he's A side but he gets location as well.
He would have to be pretty nieve to not know that when he signed with DAZN that they would go after Golovkin to make a super fight of their rivalry.
He honestly reminds me of the youngest brother in the family that has red hair(lol) that gets everything he ever asks for.

You are basing a lot of things on assumptions. Vegas is the fight capital of the world,& if canelo fought anywhere else hed actually be given even more of an advantage however much you think hes gotten til now. Vegas brings most $$ how can a fighter be hated for that?

Lets look at these scorecards everyone complains about for example the total fights & cards called biased: he has the draw vs fmj that was the worst one,then you have the lara & Ggg fights where he won by very close split decision,& by UD (completely fair imho besides byrd)

Compare that to ggg for example he got cards vs Jacobs of 115-112from 2 of the 3 same judges as nelo fight he lost.(which if nothing else shows you the venue means nothing when same judges go everywhere)

Name me any fighter & I will show you scorecards in their favor where they are given 12-0 cards that are bs,& nobody batted an eye 95% of time. my pt is that I honestly think the gingers gotten a bad rap for being the cashcow very young,& that the media is very biased esp. the cbs owned media

[MDPopescu]

There is nothing GGG can or will do different. He has fought Canelo basically the same way in both fights. It was Canelo that showed he could change up styles. He could go forward or fight off the back foot. He showed he could box and he could go to war on the inside. The only thing GGG did that was a measure of success was his jab and I thought Canelo dealt with GGG's jab very well. In both fights GGG's use of his jab was not to set up punches, but he used it because it was the only punch he could land with some level of consistency.

GGG just does not have it in him to dig deep and go to war on the inside with Canelo. This is the only way he could win, but he just is too slow. Canelo's punches are shorter, tighter compared to GGG who's punches are more looping. Most of all Canelo's body punching shuts GGG down every time he tries to mount a sustained offensive.

... as I said above: this is only my assessment...

... you could be right...

... but I still maintain that there were no risks involved in the previous fights...

[BLASTER1]

You are basing a lot of things on assumptions. Vegas is the fight capital of the world,& if canelo fought anywhere else hed actually be given even more of an advantage however much you think hes gotten til now. Vegas brings most $$ how can a fighter be hated for that?

Let look at these scorecards everyone complains about for example the total fights & cards called biased: he has the draw vs fmj that was the worst one,then you have the lara & Ggg fights where he won by split decision,& by UD (completely fair imho besides byrd)

Compare that to ggg for example he got cards vs Jacobs of 115-112from 2 of the 3 same judges as nelo fight he lost.(which if nothing else shows you the venue means nothing when same judges go everywhere)

Name me any fighter & I will show you scorecards in their favor where they are given 12-0 cards that are bs,& nobody batted an eye 95% of time. my pt is that I honestly think the gingers gotten a bad rap for being the cashcow very young,& that the media is very biased esp. the cbs owned media

I understand and can see your point of view but being this cashcow very young has worked for him in more ways than just money.
I know he probably didn't ask for it but I hope he doesn't expect it from now on.
I like Nelo as a fighter but you have to admit by being around the likes of Oscar and Sulimuin he's not exactly giving off a positive attitude.

[kushking]

You know the hate is real & knives have always been out for gingers,when the same media that crys robbery now,used to say once upon a time that Austin Trout got robbed by Canelo,they said the same after cotto,Lara ,ggg,& many even did after Jacobs. Many "pro writers" were saying Kirkland would wreck weight bully nelo then called him bum afterwards. Once upon a time the Boxing media claimed 20 yr old canelo would get schooled by Kermit Cintron & would therefore duck him,its amazing how the more things change the more they stay the same....

Now when these same writers write about those fights they say he won clearly for Trout,Cotto & Lara(what's changed since then??)

[Zaroku]

Canelo just beat Jacobs but is ducking Andrade. Canelo fights Andrade but is ducking Charlo. Canelo fights Kovalev but is ducking Callum Smith. The Canelo hate is strong. Most impressive resume in boxing has defeated 15 world champions and a four division titlist. Already has a hall of fame career but that doesn't matter to these so called boxing fans.

Yes,” kid eagle” Canelo is gonna get hated on, by a gang of haters.

[Eff Pandas]

So then what broke up the talks with GGG vs Canelo III? There isn't PPV money to split up. If it wasn't the venue what was it?

And to me Canelo should be pushed by DAZN to fight GGG a third time, but I don't think Canelo has to or even should concede the venue. Canelo is up 1-0-1 officially & that allows him to be in the drivers seat even if he wasn't the much bigger draw. Therefore if GGG f#cked up the fight by wanting it in Dallas or w/e the fight not happening is on him not Canelo.

[Eff Pandas]

... DAZN's business model is simply unsustainable...

Uber is too. Amazon was for a long time. ESPN was for the first couple years. This is just how sh^t works for a company making a big & often global play.

Idk why people keep acting like DAZN is a mom & pop store that isn't gonna be able to buy products for next month if it doesn't produce a profit this early on.

DAZN is gonna have to spend much bigger money then it has so far to run sh^t. The NBA or NFL aint cheap.

[Fanofreason]

Shows what a crap show Dazn is. Inmates are running the asylum.

Dazn is no more than a money mark in boxing, and can’t be gone soon enough.

[aboutfkntime]

these are recent comments from Canelo.....

* nothing in my contract binds me to fight Golovkin
* if Golovkin wants a rematch, he can win a title

who cares if DAZN/fans were not listening, the Canelo train rolls on

hard luck for DAZN, and hard luck for Whinekin fans

Industry KNOWS that both Canelo and GGG don’t have a predetermined list of opponents. It’s DAZN’s marketing or whatever division in their company to help sell that fight. At least writers do their part.

What’s bad is when Loeffler continues to coach GGG on what to say to make headlines and controversy about who is running who at DAZN. Imo, GGG still wasting his time seeking Canelo. If the fight happens, and I said this before, it should be at 168. Both men will be more powerful, and both in theory will deplete speed about 10-15% so that in itself makes a new bout more challenging.

Industry should be doing boxing a service and demand GGG to Fight other elites. It’s not complicated. Canelo has done his part his whole career.

I don't believe that Skipper can dictate opponents to Canelo, nor do I believe that Skipper can dictate opponents to Golovkin

Skipper has the contractual right to air Canelo fights

I am sure that he will have some input into the decision, no question..... but I am equally as sure that Canelo has the final word

if Skipper intends to undertake some " action " to push for the Canelo/Golovkin trilogy, then it appears that he has two options.....

1) lean on Canelo to fight Golovkin
2) lean on Golovkin to fight Andrade

I wish him the very best of luck with that decision

there will be no stand-off, the worst-case scenario for DAZN is..... they will have to approve a good opponent, not-named Golovkin

which will give them plenty of time to lever Golovkin off the sofa and point him at somebody with a pulse..... somebody with a title could be a good choice, like Canelo suggested from the start

if fans are critical because they want Canelo/Golovkin now..... then this is just another example of a wasted fight date because of poor opponent selection by Golovkin..... Steve Rolls was completely unnecessary, same as Vanes

BOTH of those dates could have been used to setup undisputed unification title fights..... first with Saunders, now with Andrade

[aboutfkntime]

You like keith idec make literally no sense.: "How can he pulls this shyt" "Breadman was spot on.
The most entitled boxer in boxing history."

thats some hurt feelings sht right here if I've ever heard it. Canelo has literally just come off of convincingly schooling Jacobs (if floyd schooled canelo then nelo schooled jacobs) hes in the middle of negotiating a fight & all options except for crybaby g are on the table apparently which should make perfect sense. (Ffs hes even negotiating with THE lhw & you still crying)

Yet hating ggg fan Idec is here as usual with his pocket protector connecting dots he has no clue about such as DAZN/GBP business deal. There has been countless times that everyone from John skipper himself to dlh have said from day 1 that Canelos deal doesn't mandate him to do anything he hasn't already been doing in building his resume steadily & that theres nothing in his contract that says DAZN gets to pick his opponents. Of course DAZN gets a say in who he faces(like hbo did) but if they didn't put it in the contract must be for a reason. Bottom line is Canelos deal had nothing to do with ggg,how could it if he signed way before ggg. Ggg didn't have any clue whatsoever where hed end up when dazn signed nelo to a record breaking deal.

I know I won't change your mind,but this is why I say only true ggg fans would act like kieth idec does,no professional journalist should jump to conclusions that contradict what the only available evidence tells you. He literally makes the point that if Canelo hates ggg & doesn't feel like fighting him for personal reasons esp. next then therefore he must be screwing over dazn & he must be therefore an ungrateful lil sht. That is so illogical because Canelo signed for Dazn way before ggg so how can someone be held responsible for making an unrelated deal?

exactly !

like I said earlier..... I don't believe that Skipper can dictate opponents to Canelo, any more than I believe that Skipper can dictate opponents to Golovkin

Skipper has the contractual right to air Canelo fights

I am sure that he will have some input into the decision, no question..... but I am equally as sure that Canelo has the final word

if Skipper intends to undertake some " action " to push for the Canelo/Golovkin trilogy, then it appears that he has two options.....

1) lean on Canelo to fight Golovkin
2) lean on Golovkin to fight Andrade

I wish him the very best of luck with that decision

there will be no stand-off with DAZN..... the worst-case scenario for DAZN is..... they will have to approve a good opponent, not-named Golovkin

then they will prepare to announce Golovkin's next opponent

around about then, they may start to realize what the problem is