Kovalev was lowballed. Jacobs got $10 mil to fight Canelo.

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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #61
    Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
    He would have a large weight advantage but if rumors are true and it's a catchweight at 170 with a rehydration clause why?

    At that point he basically killed himself to make weight and wont be at his best in the ring and that's exactly what Canelo wants.

    If I was Kovalev it wouldnt even matter. He beats Canelo and then what? It's not like his stock grows overnight. He is expected to win that fight because of his size. His fight numbers wont improve dramatically and theres no storyline.

    Best thing for Kov is to just name drop Canelo and find fans that way. And when you say things like, he isnt gonna get a better opportunity or pay day then look no further than GGG for Canelo.

    GGG is Canelos best payday BY FAR and if all Canelo fans truly feel he beat him easy than it's another easy HUGE payday that hes just sidestepping for no reason huh?

    Who side steps easy money? You cant talk hypocritically now.

    If Canelo is interested in GGG3 then hes obviously playing the long game because he can. He did it once. Twice. And now third times the charm.
    He beats Canelo and then what?

    Then casuals might actually know who he is and more people will show up to his fights. That's what.

    Kovalev asking for $6.5 million is pricing himself out. Ridiculous. It will take him 6 fights on his own to get even close to that. Good luck.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
      So y'all want me to believe Kovalev is a nobody. There's a reason Canelo is choosing him, 2 weight classes up, over Andrade & Charlo. Kovalev still has name value. Why not call out Bivol? Not only does he have a belt, he could also make 168 if Canelo wanted to meet him in the middle. He's calling out Kovalev because he's still the top name in that division. And about as well known as Jacobs if not more.
      a nobody wouldnt get a 5 mil offer, so he is being offered accordingly.. if he is such a big name why isnt he making the big bucks like jacobs ??? i will answer for you, he is in the wrong network... dazn is the one paying the big bucks, not arum, or haymon, or espn, etc...
      without canelo kova wont get half the money anywhere, canelo makes almost the same if he fights a nobody as you said...
      Last edited by icha; 07-02-2019, 10:33 PM.

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      • TheCell8
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        #63
        Not sure what the offer is, but if it's anything north of $3M, Kovalev would be ****** not to take it.

        He'll never see a payday like that again.

        Don't pull a Luis Ortiz. Take what's offered and then take your chances.

        Of course, we don't know if Canelo is trying to drain him and force him to fight at 170, which I wouldn't put past Canelo to do something like that. In that case, he should ask for more.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
          Kovalev should be making at least 5x's against Canelo than what he made against Ward. This fight is way more valuable
          Wouldn't 5x be 7.5?

          If their opening offer was 6.5, obviously they're willing to pay 7.5.

          Not sure why Canelo is being criticized here. Kovalev has lost over and over again. In recent years. Kovalev isn't a draw. Kovalev has a weak promoter with no TV deal. If his side ends up with 7.5 or 8, that seems pretty fair. He can't make more than 1-2 million anywhere else.

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            #65
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            He beats Canelo and then what?

            Then casuals might actually know who he is and more people will show up to his fights. That's what.

            Kovalev asking for $6.5 million is pricing himself out. Ridiculous. It will take him 6 fights on his own to get even close to that. Good luck.
            At this stage of his career? And against who is big at 175 to keep this momentum going?

            The 175 champs are unknowns. Hes not moving up?

            I get what you're saying but it's a stretch. He beats Canelo and his profile isnt instantly raised. He won't ever fight for that kind of money again. That's cashing out instead.

            The only thing he has to gain from this fight is money. It doesn't enhance his legacy or elevate him to super star status. Be real dude. He takes this it isnt to raise his profile. It's a cash out fight. Even if be wins hes never fighting for that kind of cash again.

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              #66
              Kovalev should get paid well. The guy paid his dues. Canelo has more honor than to drain Kovalev.

              If you gonna fight him at lightheavy (not necessary at all or asked), do it fully at the weight. Don't go back to catchweights, Canelito, or go screw yourself. Fight the Champ at 175. Otherwise, fight a couple of cans. I'm cool with that too.

              Fight Smith or Benevidez, otherwise.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
                At this stage of his career? And against who is big at 175 to keep this momentum going?

                The 175 champs are unknowns. Hes not moving up?

                I get what you're saying but it's a stretch. He beats Canelo and his profile isnt instantly raised. He won't ever fight for that kind of money again. That's cashing out instead.

                The only thing he has to gain from this fight is money. It doesn't enhance his legacy or elevate him to super star status. Be real dude. He takes this it isnt to raise his profile. It's a cash out fight. Even if be wins hes never fighting for that kind of cash again.
                At this stage of his career shouldn't he want to make the most money he can before he gets out of the sport?

                Turning down Canelo money is foolish with retirement looming.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                  Thru his deal with DAZN Jacobs earned $10 mil to fight Canelo. Y'all don't think Kovalev is on par with Jacobs as far as popularity? Yes I know the offer is probably more than Kovalev has ever earned>
                  - -Ain't with DAZN nor or you.

                  You wanna moan about purses join DAZN and moan away.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    LOL okay if thats what you wanna believe thats on you. But I'm not even making it a good or bad thing personally cuz I don't believe it is a good or bad thing. Its just a thing.

                    And the evidence isn't just the JCC thing ("humble" him lol). Lets not forget that Canelo is the guy who invented Caneloweight/155lbs.
                    Yeah but 1 lbs don’t matter since it wasn’t for a title and that’s why I didn’t mention it! Canelo had zero size advantage over Lara, Kirkland or Angulo and he was gracious enough to not have his first fight at 160 vs Khan which that KO coulda killed Khan. I realize they sound like excuses but keep in mind ggg flip flopped even harder by criticizing then fighting Kel brook at the full 160! No 2 ****s given then?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
                      I don't think it's a cherry pick but people are definitely over hyping this. Just saw they threw a lowball offer at Kovalev. If they're gonna pay Kovalev AND step aside money then why not just fight GGG again?

                      GGG brings the money and the drama. Great exposure for DAZN.

                      But imo, this is the angle. They know GGG was no walk in the park and honestly it's probably another 50/50 shot. That's why they wont cave on nothing. Canelo has a lot to prove with that fight. But if they fight Kovalev its still a win/win. Lose and it was expected and Canelo dared to be great or and win everything. It's a Mikey Garcia move all over again except I think Canelo got balls to go out swinging unlike Mikey.

                      Personally though I dont want GGG3. GGG can not win against Canelo. If it's close. Canelo will edge him. They're so close in terms of skill they're almost inseparable. Canelo knows this so if GGG3 does happen guess what? Hes ANOTHER full year older.
                      Yeah I see your point but Canelo has stated that due to the resentment that he feels for how undeserving he views Golovkin of being he wants to keep him from another big payday vs him. So Canelo just wants ggg to earn his shot not vs an easy ko oponent but someone worthy. So until then ggg has to make a choice

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