Comments Thread For: Richie Rivera Wins, Corley Shocks Robert Duran Jr.

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You said great BOXER as in skill. He had tremendous skill. Still F'n does. Anyone who could last 9.5 out of 10 rounds with a prime Sugar Ray is a talented MF'er.

I just said sons of great boxers. I don't consider Floyd Sr to be in that category.

Even though I think he's a great trainer and obviously turned out a great boxer in his son.

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I just said sons of great boxers. I don't consider Floyd Sr to be in that category.

Even though I think he's a great trainer and obviously turned out a great boxer in his son.

Which means you don't consider a guy who gave prime Sugar Ray fits, "great". All you care about is belts despite obvious belt org corruption for decades.

That's fine.

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Which means you don't consider a guy who gave prime Sugar Ray fits, "great". All you care about is belts despite obvious belt org corruption for decades.

That's fine.

He didn't give prime Sugar Ray fits.

Don't exaggerate.

[joseph5620]

I just said sons of great boxers. I don't consider Floyd Sr to be in that category.

Even though I think he's a great trainer and obviously turned out a great boxer in his son.

He's not LOL.

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He's not LOL.

I can't believe I have to spell it out for revelated.

I'm a huge Floyd Sr fan but can't bring myself to call him great. As a trainer yes but not for his boxing career.

[Combat Talk Radio]

He didn't give prime Sugar Ray fits.

https://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/1705-Floyd-Mayweather-Sr-to-Sugar-Ray-You-Didn-t-Beat-Me-Fair-and-Square

On September 9, 1978, Floyd Mayweather Sr stepped into the ring with a young Sugar Ray Leonard in a nationally-televised event at the Civic Center in Providence, RI. Although Leonard had yet to win a world title, he was the 'golden boy' of the 1976 Summer Games and already a boxing icon. Floyd knew a victory over boxing's fastest rising star in front of a nationally-televised audience would open many doors and quite possibly change has life forever.

It was for Floyd, the opportunity of a lifetime.

But sometimes opportunities come at a cost and like many of Sugar Ray's future opponents, Mayweather ceded any pre-fight advantages he may have had to Leonard. "People don't know this but I only had two weeks to get ready for Leonard. I took the fight on short notice," said Floyd.

"I wasn't scared of Leonard at all. I knew the moment I stepped into the ring I could beat him."

Although Leonard was 13-0, 8KO and had won gold in the Olympics just two years prior, he was only 22 years old and had never stepped into the ring with a fighter of Mayweather's credentials. Floyd Mayweather, Sr was three years older and a legitimate, world class welterweight who boasted a record of 15-1, 8 KO and was a former two-time Michigan Golden Gloves Champion.

But there was a problem.

"I fractured my hand in the fight against McKnight in the 8th round," Mayweather said solemnly. Floyd had won a unanimous decision over Art McKnight just two weeks prior facing the young Leonard. Although Mayweather's hand had begun to heal, fifteen days wasn't enough time for his painful fracture to mend satisfactorily.

"I told my manager that I didn't want to do it. He told me not to worry (because) a doctor would be there to give me a shot so I could compete... Well, guess what, he never showed," said a regretful Mayweather.

Footage of the fight is consistent with Mayweather's story. He used his right hand sparingly in the early rounds and couldn't throw it with conviction after the fifth - And the two knockdowns scored against him in the eighth were from punches that hit his right glove (the fractured hand).

So let's summarize.

• Leonard was basically NSB's equivalent of 'eye test' while Floyd Sr. was credible and proven.
• Floyd Sr took the fight on two weeks notice yet damn near took Leonard the distance.
• Knockdowns due to (essentially) punches that hit gloves on an injured hand.

Come on man. Stop. Just stop.

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https://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/...air-and-Square




So let's summarize.

• Leonard was basically NSB's equivalent of 'eye test' while Floyd Sr. was credible and proven.
• Floyd Sr took the fight on two weeks notice yet damn near took Leonard the distance.
• Knockdowns due to (essentially) punches that hit gloves on an injured hand.

Come on man. Stop. Just stop.

The fight is on YouTube. Floyd Sr may or may not have had legitimate excuses for his showing but it's there for anyone to see.

What did he go on to accomplish after losing this fight that makes you call him great?