Canelo is BAD for boxing!

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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #21
    Originally posted by deathofaclown
    But he certainly won’t rematch guys where he gets gift decisions.

    That’s why i’ll never respect him like i do other fighters. Floyd never did that. People disputed his wins over Castillo and Maidana, so what did he do? He got right back in and put it right. He could’ve abused his A-side power and move on, he didn’t need them but he wanted to prove himself.

    Canelo never got back in with Lara or GGG once he picked up his gift/questionable W.

    He isn’t the warrior he says he is. He’s a very good fighter but all too happy to run off into the sunset with the W on his record rather than prove it properly that it is deserved.
    He fought Lil G twice already.

    And he's moving on to a bigger and more dangerous opponent in Kovalev supposedly.

    What's Lil G doing in the meantime? Fighting Steve Rolls and who knows what other weak opponent next (the word is he doesn't want to fight Andrade.)

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      #22
      Originally posted by kraftzman
      That's why the Charlos need to step up and fight decent opponents. Make names for themselves without having to depend on someone else's star power. Canelo is not the only fighter in the sport. We need new stars. Unfortunately, they are all hiding behind uncle Al's skirt.
      Charlo was already Canelo's mandatory.

      Popularity and making a name for himself should never have been a factor in him getting his rightful shot.

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        #23
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Charlo was already Canelo's mandatory.

        Popularity and making a name for himself should never have been a factor in him getting his rightful shot.
        You don't get it. You know damn well mandatories are not always implemented. You can't keep on relying on one fighter to make a name for yourself. Your dad's popularity can't just be transferred onto you just because he's your dad. What you do is say to yourself, "Fk all these superstars ignoring me, I'm gonna make a name for myself by fighting the other top guys in the division."

        Man, this guy hasn't fought anyone in the top 5. There's Derevyanchenko, Jacobs, Sulecki, Lemieux, Saunders, even N'dam will do.

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        • rickJen
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          #24
          Canelo is bad for boxing,
          yet they all want him to fight their idols.
          Sooo ******.

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            #25
            The advantages he gets don't bode well for boxing fans. Just for the guys making money in boxing.

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              #26
              Originally posted by kraftzman
              You don't get it. You know damn well mandatories are not always implemented. You can't keep on relying on one fighter to make a name for yourself. Your dad's popularity can't just be transferred onto you just because he's your dad. What you do is say to yourself, "Fk all these superstars ignoring me, I'm gonna make a name for myself by fighting the other top guys in the division."

              Man, this guy hasn't fought anyone in the top 5. There's Derevyanchenko, Jacobs, Sulecki, Lemieux, Saunders, even N'dam will do.
              Mandatories are always implemented eventually, as long as the sanctioning bodies stick to their rules.

              In this case the WBC decided to invent a new rule out of thin air, though. So that Canelo wouldn't have to face his #1 contender.

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                #27
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                Mandatories are always implemented eventually, as long as the sanctioning bodies stick to their rules.

                In this case the WBC decided to invent a new rule out of thin air, though. So that Canelo wouldn't have to face his #1 contender.
                So you're okay with Charlo fighting no names while waiting for Canelo. I see.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by kraftzman
                  So you're okay with Charlo fighting no names while waiting for Canelo. I see.
                  Charlo was WBC champion at 154 and was given a high WBC ranking when he moved up to 160. Standard practice.

                  Canelo should have been forced to honor his mandatory or else vacate the title. Not been given a new bullshit franchise belt that Sulaiman pulled out of his ass.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    Charlo was already Canelo's mandatory.

                    Popularity and making a name for himself should never have been a factor in him getting his rightful shot.
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    Mandatories are always implemented eventually, as long as the sanctioning bodies stick to their rules.

                    In this case the WBC decided to invent a new rule out of thin air, though. So that Canelo wouldn't have to face his #1 contender.
                    In theory this sounds true but it doesn't actually happen. Once you reach a certain level you are flat out bigger than mandatories. You have big network contracts and money on the line it's kind of ridiculous to expect these guys to rip in network deals, go to a purse bid to fight a rival network fighter and take less money to fight guys that most of the public isn't asking them to fight. It's why Floyd after he fought Oscar and became the biggest star in the sport went almost a full decade without fighting a single mandatory. He was allowed to hold the WBC belts 4 years without them ever ordering a mandatory. And before him Oscar was the biggest star in boxing and you have to go back to the 90's when he last fought a mandatory. He fought the entire 2000's until he retired in 2008 without fighting a single mandatory.

                    It's why Bob Arum is applauding the WBC new Franchise Status and he hates Golden boy and Canelo but he wants Loma and other guys he has to get that status next. And you wait Haymon will try and get Errol Spence or Wilder that status as well.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by bigdunny1
                      In theory this sounds true but it doesn't actually happen. Once you reach a certain level you are flat out bigger than mandatories. You have big network contracts and money on the line it's kind of ridiculous to expect these guys to rip in network deals, go to a purse bid to fight a rival network fighter and take less money to fight guys that most of the public isn't asking them to fight. It's why Floyd after he fought Oscar and became the biggest star in the sport went almost a full decade without fighting a single mandatory. He was allowed to hold the WBC belts 4 years without them ever ordering a mandatory. And before him Oscar was the biggest star in boxing and you have to go back to the 90's when he last fought a mandatory. He fought the entire 2000's until he retired in 2008 without fighting a single mandatory.

                      It's why Bob Arum is applauding the WBC new Franchise Status and he hates Golden boy and Canelo but he wants Loma and other guys he has to get that status next. And you wait Haymon will try and get Errol Spence or Wilder that status as well.
                      Any legitimate sport (or society for that matter) has rules that everyone has to abide by.

                      No one can be above the law.

                      Once you start giving certain individuals preferential treatment there's a breakdown in integrity. We as fans should not condone that if we care about the health of the sport.

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