Boxingscene’s Breadman challenged by Gabriel Montoya after shots fired at Canelo PEDS

[Citizen Koba]

- -Clen a legal substance in the Mexican food chain.

You dumpties need to be screaming about how many nanograms of angels can dance on yer pinhaids.

It can be found in the meat supply, but it ain't legal I think.

Ranchers in Mexico have been known to feed clenbuterol to livestock to help increase meat yields, even though it is prohibited.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/2016/04/27/mexico-watches-out-for-banned-steroid-clenbuterol-in-food/83624918/

Unless you reckon that PEDs just don't matter it's probably a loophole that needs to be closed though.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

It’s just crazy how Canelo was so against beef in all his interviews about his diet. Then when he gets popped he blames it on contaminated beef. Interesting!

[champion4ever]

Should steroid cheats be allowed in the HOF? Well according to the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum it doesn't appear so. None of the players who have allegedly cheated the game during the steroid era never popped dirty for doping or juicing but yet none of them are currently in Cooperstown either.

Canelo is a good fighter. However, he did popped dirty for banned substances when he never needed them. Those baseball players during the steroid era did not pop dirty for anything and yet Alvarez is headed into the IBHOf, while those ball players aren't. That doesn't sound like fairness to me.

He was using them to cut weight. It's mostly prescribe to treat asthma and other chronic breathing disorders. In addition, Clenbuterol is also classified as an anabolic; Which makes it PED.

[Sleeks]

It’s just crazy how Canelo was so against beef in all his interviews about his diet. Then when he gets popped he blames it on contaminated beef. Interesting!

https://www.gq.com/story/canelo-alvarez-real-life-diet

“I do two months of strict dieting,” he says, “so after fight night I go for whatever my body is craving. It’s usually sushi. But after that I go home to Guadalajara and indulge in a lot of tacos before I have to start getting in shape for another fight.”

The failed tests were more than 2 months out from the fight.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Here's what gets me about the whole thing. Canelo had started training early February with the elevation mask for the second time in his career. He then goes to Mexico and just so happens to eat the one thing his team says he doesn't eat when he's training? And not just eat, but enough either enough of, or has a super concentrated amount of the drug in the amount he ate. They also had planned a high altitude training camp for the first time that I'm aware. And he gets popped for a drug that would definitely help his stamina. We don't know how long those affects stay in the system but it is coincidental that he threw the most punches in his career in the rematch with 622. Other than the Chavez fight which saw him throw barely over 600, he's thrown over 500 once. And now he's back to his historical average of around 450 against Jacobs. There's too many red flags around the clen situation and now we see him jumping around from 155 to 154, 154 to 164, 164 to 160, 160 to 168, back down to 160 and now talking of going to 175. Going to 160 was such an issue for all that time but now he's jumping around like no big deal. I find that su****ious. Not to mention what Koba-Grozny has said about the half-life and the amounts that were found don't quite add up.

Lol. So punch stats should always be consistent? The Canelo that whooped Angulo was not the same punch stats as the Cotto bout.

PBF punch stats were not the same as post Floyd. Styles make fights

[Thuglife Nelo]

It’s just crazy how Canelo was so against beef in all his interviews about his diet. Then when he gets popped he blames it on contaminated beef. Interesting!

Lol. It’s the same Freshbrawler that says all Conte SNAC fighters are cheats. Remember you crying about Mikey Garcia vs Spence? You said Haney, Jacobs, Andrade all cheats... lol

Guess what! They’re not 365 like Canelo. That doesn’t mean they’re cheats.

Notice when’s jRock beat Hurd, you and your LDBC cronies didn’t say a lick about SNAC!

Cute story doe about Canelo when you say “it’s crazy...”. Lol. Casuals

[_Maxi]

I have to agree with Gabriel Montoya here.

Nothing in Canelo's history leads me to doubt him when he says the clenbuterol was accidental, from tainted meat. He hasn't lied before nor has he been a cheater.

Abandoning vada for the Smith fight.
Losing muscle for the rematch...

[Thuglife Nelo]

you can change the word Canelo, to Pacquiao..... and the word failed, to ducked..... and breadman would literally be more accurate
as for the guys who are examining Canelo's punch-count, and fixating on 100 punches..... Pac leaped through THREE divisions in NINE MONTHS..... gaining 12+ pounds of muscle and more than DOUBLING his punch count

he turned from a normal 450-500 punch fighter who looked shot at the end of a fight..... into a 1200+ punch dynamo who looked fresh as a daisy, despite climbing THREE divisions

if breadman is happy to look the other way while that happened, he cannot talk about Canelo..... who did not publicly refuse drug testing for YEARS

killing a super-fight by refusing random blood tests, while making HIGHLY su****ious improvements..... is WAY worse than undertaking FULL testing and failing because of trace elements for a known contaminant, while being known for having poor stamina

also, Pacquiao's game was dynamic volume, death by a thousand bee-stings..... we saw the effect of whatever he was taking, 1200+ punches LMAO..... Canelo is beating guys with skill/technique/gameplan, and steroids do not help with that..... you guys who insist that Canelo cheated need to explain why he is notorious for having poor stamina

we know that he made improvements in the Golovkin rematch, and he know that he was clean..... but..... when Pacquiao finally agreed to drug testing, he was suddenly back to a normal 450 punch fighter again

sorry bread, you do not get to ignore one of those guys and throw stones at the other

Thomas Hauser recently admitted PAC was juicing.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Abandoning vada for the Smith fight.
Losing muscle for the rematch...

Lol. You’re saying Smith and Warren pleaded for VADA to continue? Pacboys not even 100 with recent news. Sorry man, Hauser said it himself, Pac was juicing his whole career, even before advanced drug testing, Argentinian style too

[Citizen Koba]

Lol. It’s the same Freshbrawler that says all Conte SNAC fighters are cheats. Remember you crying about Mikey Garcia vs Spence? You said Haney, Jacobs, Andrade all cheats... lol

Guess what! They’re not 365 like Canelo. That doesn’t mean they’re cheats.

Notice when’s jRock beat Hurd, you and your LDBC cronies didn’t say a lick about SNAC!

Cute story doe about Canelo when you say “it’s crazy...”. Lol. Casuals

You're a motivated dude Frankie, can you sniff out any hard information on what exactly makes VADA 365 more efficacious than the regular VADA as used in the CPB? Some pundits say it's the same, some - like Montoya - claim it's more comprehensive, but no-where have I been able to find any hard info on testing frequency or anything.

I mean, yes, VADA claim they haven't really got the funding for the CPB to be effective even though it is, theoretically, 24/7/365 - so having an athlete actually pay 'em should overcome that... but I would have thought they would be wanting to advertise the efficacy of fighter funded testing.