Keep plugging along, Floyd. They said the same thing about Hopkins.

[charlie31]

Still things you seem to not know about boxing to. You say hopkins was looking for bigmoney fights, anyone with a brain could see he wasn't going to get them at the middleweight for the first part of his carrer if it meant fighting someone who could beat him. After the trinidad fight warren and don king agreed a calzaghe v hopkins match for $3mill to take place in the USA; Hopkins went and asked for $6mill later on knowling pricing him self out of that fight. $3mill then surly would of been the biggest purse of his carrer to that date, after his next to fights took place in PA? fighting people for small amounts of money.. think one was under $1mill...

People talk about hopkins as if he is this amazing fighter who beat some of the best fighters he could... Looking back at his record i see 2 names that should be respectable wins... Johnson and tarvaer. Tito was never a middle weight and neither was ODLH, no matter how great they were below that weight hopkins was always going to beat them at middle. Glencoffe was a good fight for hopkins to win, so was tarver, although i think he was way overrated...

It's funny how so many seemd to be duped in the "wow hopkins took on those guys at his age" (jaoylor and tarver) it is more a case of he took them on BECAUSE he was that age. I think it is well known he was after one thinkg, money... yes yes i am well aware that he i said about him not taking the calzaghe fight for $3m or he never moved up. He stayed put knowing full well he could stay at middle and go on without any realy danger to him self lossing for years and make themoney to the later stage of his carrer.. and thats what happend.. a mega pay-day for ODLH fight, $3mill for freaking easterman fight! and god only knows how much for the taylor fights and tarver.. but imo he took the last 3 fights knowing win or losse the excuse of his age was there and it would not harm his legacy one bit, more so improve it..

Now don't get me wrong, i am not a hopkins hater, i am a some what fan.. but that doesn't mean i have to delude my self into seeing something that isn't really there.

Hopkins had 20 defenses at middle weight right?? means he didnt go up a class here and there avoiding other fighters at middle like Mayweather did at 140 and is def doing now at 147. Hopkins didnt have to fight Taylor but he did. HE WASNT DUCKING JONES/TONEY WAS THE POINT HE WAS DICUSSING CATCH WEIGHTS JUST TO MAKE BIG MONEY FIGHTS.

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Hopkins had 20 defenses at middle weight right?? means he didnt go up a class here and there avoiding other fighters at middle like Mayweather did at 140 and is def doing now at 147. Hopkins didnt have to fight Taylor but he did. HE WASNT DUCKING JONES/TONEY WAS THE POINT HE WAS DICUSSING CATCH WEIGHTS JUST TO MAKE BIG MONEY FIGHTS.

PBf is in one of, if not THEE hotest divison right now... hopkins was in one of the ****est devisions... you say he didn't go up as not not avoide people at middle.. who was there to avoide lol?? hakkar lol? or maybe the great howard easterman? Calzaghe, toney, jones all above him. If he could get $3mill for calzaghe who hardly anyone in america rated then, how much do u think he could of gotten for taking on toney or jones Jr?? **** the 20 defences, he could of tried to be a 3 weight champion, with wins on his record over people like jones jr, toney, calzaghe tarver in his prime just to name a few - anyone who isnt willing to bend over for nard would agree beating them, taking their titles would be much more impressive than most of the people he holds wins over.. and no doubt the money would of been alot bigger, 'coz thats what you said didn't you? nard went for the 'money fights'

don't get me wrong though, im not really a pbf fan, i niether like nor disslike him, but untill he next 2-3 fights happen i think its unfair to say he has avoided anyone as of yet...

But you made out hopkins was willing to fight anyone and everyone.. when clearly he wasn't

[MR. V]

but untill he next 2-3 fights happen i think its unfair to say he has avoided anyone as of yet...

tru tru tru.

[PATO 1]

Dont compare Mayweather to Hopkins. Do you know anything about boxing? The fights with Hopkins and Jones/Toney were not even in the same weight class. Bernard was just looking for big money fights. Mayweather hasnt had a meaningful fight since 135. He is just picking up belts. Where Hatton fought Kosta at 140. Mayweather is at 147 and is avoiding Marg. plain and simple. Biggest payday of his career and right in front of him and he is going for Spinks. Dela said no..Shane said no. should be seeing Mayweather vs Marg. period Mayweather cant hold Hopkins jock strap.

HAHAHA see the haters makin lies up again

is floyd-spinks sealed

spinks has beat judah,mayorga,picirillo,karmazin an margo has beat cintron

plus its another belt in another division against a better fighter which would dom more for his legacy

please get some boxing knowledge

[charlie31]

PBf is in one of, if not THEE hotest divison right now... hopkins was in one of the ****est devisions... you say he didn't go up as not not avoide people at middle.. who was there to avoide lol?? hakkar lol? or maybe the great howard easterman? Calzaghe, toney, jones all above him. If he could get $3mill for calzaghe who hardly anyone in america rated then, how much do u think he could of gotten for taking on toney or jones Jr?? **** the 20 defences, he could of tried to be a 3 weight champion, with wins on his record over people like jones jr, toney, calzaghe tarver in his prime just to name a few - anyone who isnt willing to bend over for nard would agree beating them, taking their titles would be much more impressive than most of the people he holds wins over.. and no doubt the money would of been alot bigger, 'coz thats what you said didn't you? nard went for the 'money fights'

don't get me wrong though, im not really a pbf fan, i niether like nor disslike him, but untill he next 2-3 fights happen i think its unfair to say he has avoided anyone as of yet...

But you made out hopkins was willing to fight anyone and everyone.. when clearly he wasn't

First of all..people in here said on a previous post that he was avoiding fights with Jones/Toney..i was just stating that they weren't in his weight class..they were two and three divisions up actually. my point was he wasnt avoiding them..the only reason they were mentioned is because he was seeking big money fights. PBF WAS in one of the hottest divisions at 140 and didnt fight the best..and once again at 147..not figting the best( ducking Marg) and now wants to fight Spinks at 154?? garbage..Hopkins couldve avoided Taylor,,but he didnt AND he beat the ring champ at light heavy...you cannot compare the two. period.

[charlie31]

HAHAHA see the haters makin lies up again

is floyd-spinks sealed

spinks has beat judah,mayorga,picirillo,karmazin an margo has beat cintron

plus its another belt in another division against a better fighter which would dom more for his legacy

please get some boxing knowledge

another belt for his Legacy,,thats so dumb.

[PATO 1]

so was your comment

[charlie31]

so was your comment

yeah..another belt for his legacy...that comment shows you dont know much. their is no point debating with you.

[Roberto_Roldan_]

Let's put it this way: would YOU buy a ticket to a Castillo fight? Would YOU make the drive to see him compete and pay for a hotel? Would YOU pay for a plane ticket?

I would im not going to stop being his fan just because he COULDNT make weight he tried but his body just couldnt do it.....I wouldnt buya ticket if he were going to fight in the lightweight division though

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yeah..another belt for his legacy...that comment shows you dont know much. their is no point debating with you.

so its ok for hopkins to make the big 20 title defence for his legacy, but not ok for PBf (if thats what he trys to do) to become there first ever 5 weight champion under the age of 30?

you really have just spouted out line after line of crap