Who is the greatest of all time? Larry Holmes Lennox Lewis Vitali or Tyson Fury?

[MastaBlasta]

Yes but Evander wasnt enough was he because he lacked the overall ability that some* bigger men had. This is the most extreme elite you can have thats why Evander isnt named. Nor should Ali be.

Anyway potential troll going on here so gonna limit my responses, thats my final say on Ali and weight etc

The punch Wilder landed in the 12th on Fury ... Ali would have landed 10 like that per round ...

[MastaBlasta]

Was Ali prime before or after the Frazier loss?

Before ... and after. Ali didn't make excuses for the Frazier loss (though obviously he lost his 3 best years in the pen). Frazier earned a tough win. Ali avenged it twice.

[4truth]

There is no such animal. None of those mentioned beats everyone. Of all of them Holmes was the most focused and consistent throughout his career but I don’t think he beats everyone. No one beats everyone, not even Ali.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Prime Mike Tyson has to be in there somewhere.

I really struggled with that list lol. I think he definitely could be anywhere outside the top 5 and I wouldn’t mind it.

[MastaBlasta]

I really struggled with that list lol. I think he definitely could be anywhere outside the top 5 and I wouldn’t mind it.

LoL, fair enough.

[AlexKid]

Prime Mike Tyson might be up there too I think if you transplant him in the modern era or the past era's he would dominate in an extreme way, he screwed up his chances in his era and so its easy to over look him because he became 4th in his era but really in his prime he could probably do well vs a prime Lewis or Holmes, although he would probably still lose to lesser men like Holyfield, hes like stylistically made for guys liek Holmes and is weaker vs other guys with a good chin, I think Bowe would beat Tyson, because he has a great chin Lewis prime for prime I think would lose to Mike Tyson because his chin isnt enough. Mike Tyson is a hard one to rank because he has a very specific style taht matches up well and poorly with other fighters at the same time, and he didnt show us his best since he went off teh rails.

[Szef]

Prime Ali dismantles Fury and Lewis, fairly easily. People who weren't around to see and appreciate have no idea how strong Ali was. He also was a master strategist. He would have those guys figured out and know where and when to hurt them most. Ali also could take a punches these guys could never have taken. He would have out-trained these guys and had more endurance.

Ali seriously came close to fighting Wilt Chamberlain (7'-1" who boxed all during his youth and twenties). Even though Wilt had more reach than these modern guys could dream about (and he stated that Ali would not get by his jab), Wilt also declined to follow through and actually fight. Ali was confident he would have remedies for Wilt's size and reach, and was as vocal as ever that he would teach Wilt a lesson.

I'm sure that neither Lennox nor Vitali would have stood much of a chance with Wilt. I doubt they would have even tried. Neither guy ever considered fighting Valuev for instance.

they both would ko him. you serious right now? two proven killers would not stand a chance vs a basketball player because he was big?

lol

[AlexKid]

Deontay is a few milliseconds away from being talked about here, I wonder if these very powerful sluggers need a different style ie do they purposely not get technical in a textbook way because they have a different way or style that works better for them? Foreman is simlar its not like he couldnt be taught to be more technical but what he does just works for what he has right?

[Armchairhero]

Prime Mike Tyson has to be in there somewhere.

It’s cool on here to not give Mike any credit, I would back a young Tyson against any man

Holmes wasn’t a grandpa when he smashed him all over the ring either

[Armchairhero]

The punch Wilder landed in the 12th on Fury ... Ali would have landed 10 like that per round ...

Just with a 10th of the power...