Comments Thread For: Report: Site For Canelo-Golovkin III Holding Up Negotiations

[Eff Pandas]

It's very early. There is another thread here somewhere suggesting that it's Oscars fault the negotiations are stalling. So it depends who you ask I guess.

What the rest of that angle that its Oscar's fault in that thread? I didn't see it.

Hell I'm just learning they are talking to make this trilogy fight with this thread. I was thinking Canelo/Oscar were already looking to dodge a third fight vs some other guy not in talks with GGG as we speak.

[TonyGe]

I've been a GGG fan for pretty much his entire career, mainly because I enjoy that come forward take one to give one style, but I agree with a lot of the comments on here with regard to a third fight. I'm not going to say I wouldn't watch it because I will, but I think it's a bit of a non event at this stage and there are better fights out there for Canelo. While I am not a Canelo fan (mainly due to DLH) he deserves props for the career he's had and I do think he'd fight anyone (even in their prime) if it wasn't for his handlers. At this stage I'd like to see him up against Smith at 168, although I don't think DLH will let that happen unless there's some crazy stipulations put in the contract, because I think he walks through anyone at 160 right now. If GGG was a few years younger I'd be more interested but, that said, I still think GGG gives him the sternest test at 160.

I respect what you say here in this post but in the other one the slur threw me off. I don't like Canelo for various reasons. However I give him credit for the performances he put in against Golovkin and Jacobs. The fight may happen or it may fall through but I want to see it. I picked Canelo to win a few months ago but I want to see if Golovkin can make the necessary adjustments and pull it off. Time is not on his side and he and Banks want to implement some style changes before a possible Sept. fight. That might backfire. I didn't see much in the Rolls fight but that was a sensational punch from the Southpaw stance. have to say I like Banks' demeanor and general philosophy so that's a positive. I think it's an interesting fight. There are a lot of subplots.

[TonyGe]

What the rest of that angle that its Oscar's fault in that thread? I didn't see it.

Hell I'm just learning they are talking to make this trilogy fight with this thread. I was thinking Canelo/Oscar were already looking to dodge a third fight vs some other guy not in talks with GGG as we speak.

You know what stuck me as odd from the very beginning? They were talking trilogy before the first fight was even signed. Hmmmm...

[hitking]

I disagree wholeheartedly. Many hardcore fans saw how GGG fought in fight two and are resigned to the appearance that GGG is very hittable and can only beat Alvarez if he makes the fight boring. There is nothing left to the imagination in the match up, nor has either fight added any drama. Pac-JMM had knockdowns, come forward action from both fighters, and suspense because leather was being laid round after round. That's nonexistent in this matchup and many aren't sold on the potential that its going to happen.

What folks are intrigued by is whether Alvarez can overcome a stylistic nightmare to become undisputed, something GGG didn't do. They also want to know if Alvarez can beat a legit SMW.

Lastly, why is GGG age a factor only when he decides he wants to fight Alvarez? Did Alvarez force him to sit on the bench for 6+ months before deciding to fight? Did Alvarez force GGG to turn down the Charlo fight which woud have added more luster to the trilogy. Its as if the full responsibility of selling, promoting, and making their fights is on Alvarez while GGG beats soft competition. Just because GGG is trying to make his career and retirement money off Alvarez, doesn't mean Alvarez is compelled to oblige.

So let’s if I got this right. GGG pretty much got his ass kicked in the first half of the Canelo rematch. He makes a tactical adjustment to use his physical advantages and outbox Canelo. And did so successfully enough that a lot of people felt he won the fight. And somehow, that’s a bad thing. I’m sorry. That is by far the ******est f.ucking thing I’ve ever heard a so called hardcore fight fan say.

Second, there’s plenty of intrigue in a third fight if you actually understand boxing. Canelo made the tactics adjustment going into the rematch to put GGG on his back foot and was very successful doing it. GGG made the adjustment to use movement and work behind his jab. Any true fight fan should be intrigued as to what adjustment either guy can make to try and score a convincing victory.

As for Canelo trying to become “undisputed.” Canelo is currently holding a title with nearly twenty years of unbroken lineage. That title at one point in time had all four major belts attached to it simultaneously. None of those belts were ever lost in the ring. GGG, who never held the lineal title, but managed to become the unquestioned #1 guy in the division. You feel Canelo has clearly bested him. How much more undisputed can he get? You people have become so f.ucking dumb when it comes to this belt bulls.hit you don’t even try and make rational sense anymore. Andrade has beaten absolutely nobody that resembles a legitimate MW. And he does jacks.hit for Canelo at this point.

[STREET CLEANER]

You are correct. At the last minute they caved in another 5% or so. Which was worth millions.

But I think Canelo makes the same who he fights?

They are on DANZ, I don't know if there is any extra incentive for more users. It is not like ppv that you can negotiate for that percentage. But they are other ways that they can cash in on the fight other than gate and purses.

[Jab jab boom]

I think we all know why ggg doesn't want to fight Canelo in Vegas, but what's Canelo's apprehension about fighting in msg? He just fought fielding there. Is their concern that he won't get a 117-111 scorecard in a close fight the way he does in Vegas?

[kushking]

I think we all know why ggg doesn't want to fight Canelo in Vegas, but what's Canelo's apprehension about fighting in msg? He just fought fielding there. Is their concern that he won't get a 117-111 scorecard in a close fight the way he does in Vegas?

Vegas brings the most money,its the fight capital of the world. Very few fighters can make vegas the most lucrative venue on earth in a 21k seat stadium,pretty much only floyd money mayweather & Saul money Alvarez. Msg & vegas have exactly the same judges,the same judges ggg picked,the ones that gave him a rediculous 3 pt win over jacobs,the one who gave him the win by a pt in 1st fight but had him losing rematch,those judges...

[Ake-Dawg]

So let’s if I got this right. GGG pretty much got his ass kicked in the first half of the Canelo rematch. He makes a tactical adjustment to use his physical advantages and outbox Canelo. And did so successfully enough that a lot of people felt he won the fight. And somehow, that’s a bad thing. I’m sorry. That is by far the ******est f.ucking thing I’ve ever heard a so called hardcore fight fan say.

Second, there’s plenty of intrigue in a third fight if you actually understand boxing. Canelo made the tactics adjustment going into the rematch to put GGG on his back foot and was very successful doing it. GGG made the adjustment to use movement and work behind his jab. Any true fight fan should be intrigued as to what adjustment either guy can make to try and score a convincing victory.

As for Canelo trying to become “undisputed.” Canelo is currently holding a title with nearly twenty years of unbroken lineage. That title at one point in time had all four major belts attached to it simultaneously. None of those belts were ever lost in the ring. GGG, who never held the lineal title, but managed to become the unquestioned #1 guy in the division. You feel Canelo has clearly bested him. How much more undisputed can he get? You people have become so f.ucking dumb when it comes to this belt bulls.hit you don’t even try and make rational sense anymore. Andrade has beaten absolutely nobody that resembles a legitimate MW. And he does jacks.hit for Canelo at this point.

GGG never beat the mover spoiler and Canelo has struggled with them. Thus the intrigue for either of them to fight one to become undisputed.

What's with you triangle theorist? Who did Ruiz beat before Joshua?

[Clubber Pac]

I don't think this fight will be the blockbuster it is being made out to be.

Furthermore, if Canelo is not contractually obligated to fight GGG next, he should walk, force GGG to fight someone of substance before getting a title shot. GGG making demands is a major league turnoff if I am Canelo, simply, because I don't need him to make $30 million, nor will I be held responsible for DAZN signing an aging fighter that doesnt want to earn mega fights for $100 million dollars.

Canelo should walk

[Clubber Pac]

I think we all know why ggg doesn't want to fight Canelo in Vegas, but what's Canelo's apprehension about fighting in msg? He just fought fielding there. Is their concern that he won't get a 117-111 scorecard in a close fight the way he does in Vegas?

the major concern is taxes in New York, it's actually pretty ****** to fight there if you looking at an 8 figure payday, you can make far more money in Vegas.