casual fans need to learn how to score a fight.....

[TonyGe]

He often does that with Compubox.

When the stats don't fit his agenda, Compubox is for casual fanboy muppets.

When they do fit his agenda, Compubox is the truth!

I did precisely what you just did. I used Compubox to reinforce what I was saying all along that Gennady landed more punches in the majority of the rounds than Canelo did. Unlike you I see nothing wrong with it. That makes you the biggest fanboy hypocrite on the forum.

[NachoMan]

Pretty good video. I'm glad the sample scoring included an even round. It seems like a small minority of fight fans acknowledge that these things actually exist. Too often fans force themselves to score a 10-9 round when the round was truly even; as though it was somehow weak, indecisive or wishy-washy to not be able to discern a winner for each and every round. This perception, IMO, is the number one reason why fight cards end up being so controversial. Most competitive fights have one or more genuinely even rounds, but they almost never get scored that way.

I thought the video was straight-forward and well-done, but I do take minor issue with the way it sort of perpetuates the myth that the first KD in a round is somehow worth a 2 point deduction instead of 1. The author implies that a KD must necessarily confer the round (and therefore an automatic 10-8 round), but that's not true at all. There are many cases when fighter A completely dominates a round except for a KD. Sometime this could be a very insignificant flash knockdown, yet the author would apparently score this a 10-8 for Fighter B.

This is not how it works. All KDs are worth the same 1-point deduction. Before deducting points for KDs and fouls, the scorer must determine who won the round - apart from the KD's and fouls. I think its very difficult for people to separate a KD from the rest of the round, but the rules don't allow for extra subjective credit for KDs beyond the 1 point deduction.

[kafkod]

I did precisely what you just did. I used Compubox to reinforce what I was saying all along that Gennady landed more punches in the majority of the rounds than Canelo did. Unlike you I see nothing wrong with it. That makes you the biggest fanboy hypocrite on the forum.

I think you got me confused with somebody else!

[TonyGe]

I think you got me confused with somebody else!

Sorry man. I went off on the wrong guy. I apologize.

[kafkod]

Pretty good video. I'm glad the sample scoring included an even round. It seems like a small minority of fight fans acknowledge that these things actually exist. Too often fans force themselves to score a 10-9 round when the round was truly even; as though it was somehow weak, indecisive or wishy-washy to not be able to discern a winner for each and every round. This perception, IMO, is the number one reason why fight cards end up being so controversial. Most competitive fights have one or more genuinely even rounds, but they almost never get scored that way.

I agree with that 100%

thought the video was straight-forward and well-done, but I do take minor issue with the way it sort of perpetuates the myth that the first KD in a round is somehow worth a 2 point deduction instead of 1. The author implies that a KD must necessarily confer the round (and therefore an automatic 10-8 round), but that's not true at all. There are many cases when fighter A completely dominates a round except for a KD. Sometime this could be a very insignificant flash knockdown, yet the author would apparently score this a 10-8 for Fighter B.

This is not how it works. All KDs are worth the same 1-point deduction. Before deducting points for KDs and fouls, the scorer must determine who won the round - apart from the KD's and fouls. I think its very difficult for people to separate a KD from the rest of the round, but the rules don't allow for extra subjective credit for KDs beyond the 1 point deduction.

Most judges, commentators and pundits nowadays will automatically award the round to the fighter who scores a KD, and deduct a point from the opponent. I can't remember the last time I saw a 10 - 9 round after a KD.

Have you seen that happen recently?

[kafkod]

Sorry man. I went off on the wrong guy. I apologize.

No worries!

[Citizen Koba]

Got a friend who's a well respected child psychologist, and we talk about stuff, y'know, specially cos I got kids and that. She tells me that all the current research points to attention being vitally important for a childs development and that a lack of attention being given to a child can be at least as harmful as more active forms of abuse such as shouting or physical violence... that in fact children will learn to behave in ways that elicit such negative attention in preference to no attention at all.

[NachoMan]

I agree with that 100%





Most judges, commentators and pundits nowadays will automatically award the round to the fighter who scores a KD, and deduct a point from the opponent. I can't remember the last time I saw a 10 - 9 round after a KD.

Have you seen that happen recently?

No, I haven't. As you say, pretty much everyone believes that a single KD in a round confers two points. I hear it all the time from commentators that a single KD automatically equals a 10-8 round, but that is not supported by the scoring rules.

[Boxing_1013]

Got a friend who's a well respected child psychologist, and we talk about stuff, y'know, specially cos I got kids and that. She tells me that all the current research points to attention being vitally important for a childs development and that a lack of attention being given to a child can be at least as harmful as more active forms of abuse such as shouting or physical violence... that in fact children will learn to behave in ways that elicit such negative attention in preference to no attention at all.

At first I thought you had the wrong thread...then I read it again lol...great post and perspectives Koba

[kafkod]

No, I haven't. As you say, pretty much everyone believes that a single KD in a round confers two points. I hear it all the time from commentators that a single KD automatically equals a 10-8 round, but that is not supported by the scoring rules.

It looks judges are following the policy that a fighter who gets knocked down automatically loses the round, and gets a point deducted for the KD.

Something needs to be done about the way fights are being scored nowadays. Applying the rules around KDs properly and allowing for even rounds when necessary would be a good way to start.