Fury's nandrolone reading was never revealed by UKAD

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  • Ray*
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    #21
    Fury and his cousin were caught cheating. Forget all the loopholes that they were able to exploit using UKAD incompetence against themselves, I don’t care how many things you want to throw out, they were cheats. They had a great lawyer and use whatever they could to get away with the “2 years mental health issues (Drug ban)”

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      #22
      It was all motorcity Cobras fault he is the mastermind behind all this.

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        #23
        Furys face and things he was saying didn't fit at the time, powerful people didn't want him as the heavy weight champ.

        Joshua is an example of state sponsored cheating, soon as he's out the UK he loses.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
          It's a funny one for sure, can't help thinking the MSAC went beyond their remit here though it's hard to be sure whether they were leaned on to do so, cos I can't think of any obvious reason they would deny him otherwise, especially on review - unless perhaps they thought the publicity created made it politically expedient to deny a license - specially in the light of the Canelo case... understandable, but not really acceptable from a governmental organisation.

          It is a little amusing how some posters took the opportunity to declare how the US had the Gold Standard in testing as a result of this when in fact the majority of members of the ABC (those that have testing protocols at all) use the exact same WADA protocols as the BBBoC and everyone else involved in the sport.
          Imo, the MSAC were either leaned on or took it upon themselves to make a decision which they knew full well would open up an easy route to a world title for a US fighter from a neighbouring state.

          Re the bolded ... when did facts start altering opinions at this place?

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            #25
            Originally posted by Ray*
            Fury and his cousin were caught cheating. Forget all the loopholes that they were able to exploit using UKAD incompetence against themselves, I don’t care how many things you want to throw out, they were cheats. They had a great lawyer and use whatever they could to get away with the “2 years mental health issues (Drug ban)”
            UKAD have never shown that level of incompetence before. Their policy is to bring charges as soon as possible after a flagged test result - usually within a week - so as to give the accused athlete every chance to defend themselves against the charge by referring to the source of the flagged substance.

            UKAD have accepted that they did not follow correct procedure with the Furys. So what made them decide to dig up test results obtained 15 months previously, and use them to to bring these charges?

            Don't you find it strange that they did that literally weeks after Tyson Fury was criticised by MPs in Parliament ... the same Parliament that funds UKAD?

            I do.

            I also find it a little strange to see people taking the same line as you on this - UKAD are incompetent, maybe also corrupt. But they charged the Furys with PED abuse, so the Furys must be guilty, even though their cases were never heard by an independent tribunal, and the only strike against them is an accusation by the corrupt and incompetent UKAD.

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              #26
              Originally posted by kafkod
              UKAD have never shown that level of incompetence before. Their policy is to bring charges as soon as possible after a flagged test result - usually within a week - so as to give the accused athlete every chance to defend themselves against the charge by referring to the source of the flagged substance.

              UKAD have accepted that they did not follow correct procedure with the Furys. So what made them decide to dig up test results obtained 15 months previously, and use them to to bring these charges?

              Don't you find it strange that they did that literally weeks after Tyson Fury was criticised by MPs in Parliament ... the same Parliament that funds UKAD?

              I do.

              I also find it a little strange to see people taking the same line as you on this - UKAD are incompetent, maybe also corrupt. But they charged the Furys with PED abuse, so the Furys must be guilty, even though their cases were never heard by an independent tribunal, and the only strike against them is an accusation by the corrupt and incompetent UKAD.
              Correct it was purely a political move, look at the British cycling team for state sponsored cheating.

              They wanted rid of fury for his views and they tried everything possible, it's obviously why he's chosen to be basically based in the US from now on, don't blame him.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                It's a funny one for sure, can't help thinking the MSAC went beyond their remit here though it's hard to be sure whether they were leaned on to do so, cos I can't think of any obvious reason they would deny him otherwise, especially on review - unless perhaps they thought the publicity created made it politically expedient to deny a license - specially in the light of the Canelo case... understandable, but not really acceptable from a governmental organisation.

                It is a little amusing how some posters took the opportunity to declare how the US had the Gold Standard in testing as a result of this when in fact the majority of members of the ABC (those that have testing protocols at all) use the exact same WADA protocols as the BBBoC and everyone else involved in the sport.
                It's also worth mentioning that USADA follow those same protocols. They adhere to the same rules on PEDs as UKAD.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  Fury's nandrolone reading was never revealed by UKAD

                  I've been reading posts by a few ill informed members - AKA lying kunts - talking about the sky-high concentration of nandrolone in Tyson Fury's flagged urine sample back in 2015.

                  The truth is that the actual amount of nandrolone in Tyson and Hughie's urine samples was never disclosed by either UKAD or Team Fury.

                  https://www.ukad.org.uk/sites/defaul...06/FOI-187.pdf
                  ... I don't know what you want to "demonstrate" with this...

                  ... ped testing was always shady until VADA was instated by WBC...

                  ... Wilder "embraced" VADA as late as for his July 2016 fight vs "big star" Arreola...
                  Last edited by MDPopescu; 06-19-2019, 06:48 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Heavyshake
                    Correct it was purely a political move, look at the British cycling team for state sponsored cheating.

                    They wanted rid of fury for his views and they tried everything possible, it's obviously why he's chosen to be basically based in the US from now on, don't blame him.
                    The Chairman of UKAD and 3 of his top aides left the organisation before the deal with Team Fury was struck. Would the the people in charge now like to bring Fury down if they got the chance?

                    Fury is still licensed by the BBBoC, and has become much more "PC" in his public statements and interviews. but it It wouldn't surprise me at all if he eventually decided to base himself permanently in the US.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Heavyshake
                      Correct it was purely a political move, look at the British cycling team for state sponsored cheating.

                      They wanted rid of fury for his views and they tried everything possible, it's obviously why he's chosen to be basically based in the US from now on, don't blame him.
                      Well said.

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