Coppinger confirms Endeavor looking to purchase PBC

[Eff Pandas]

It'll be interesting if they drop Showtime to link up with ESPN.

Showtime becomes FS1 level fights for awhile without PBC.

And ESPN is looking a whole lot scarier for competitor's in the combat sports sphere.

DAZN will have troubles with battling that 2 headed dragon that ESPN will become with Arum & Haymon on the same platform. Lotsa fights much more doable with TR & PBC on the same street.

And lotsa PBC & TR fanboys will likely have heart attacks n die from shock at this news so thats just a good byproduct outcome for all of us.

[kidbazooka]

So they will now try to put pbc on their ****ty streaming crap.

These people are doing a helluva job at trying to bury the sport.

[DARTH SILKWORMS]

It'll be interesting if they drop Showtime to link up with ESPN.

Showtime becomes FS1 level fights for awhile without PBC.

And ESPN is looking a whole lot scarier for competitor's in the combat sports sphere.

DAZN will have troubles with battling that 2 headed dragon that ESPN will become with Arum & Haymon on the same platform. Lotsa fights much more doable with TR & PBC on the same street.

And lotsa PBC & TR fanboys will likely have heart attacks n die from shock at this news so thats just a good byproduct outcome for all of us.

I think in the hypothetical joint UFC/PBC deal with ESPN, Top Rank gets pushed out. WME wouldn't be buying PBC to play nice with Arum. They'd be trying to run everyone else out of the market so PBC can become a monopoly like UFC.

[KTFOKING]

I think in the hypothetical joint UFC/PBC deal with ESPN, Top Rank gets pushed out. WME wouldn't be buying PBC to play nice with Arum. They'd be trying to run everyone else out of the market so PBC can become a monopoly like UFC.

ESPN just inked a 7 year deal with TR so I don't know how that would work. I don't think that is what ESPN would want. They would want to keep both the PBC and TR and just control combat sports as an whole.

Maybe Emanuel goes back and tries to purchase TR like he did a few years back?

He's going to quickly realize though that boxing isn't nearly as profitable as the UFC since the A side fighters make so much of the money opposed to the UFC. Will be interesting to see if he tries to adjust their paying scale.

[Eff Pandas]

I think in the hypothetical joint UFC/PBC deal with ESPN, Top Rank gets pushed out. WME wouldn't be buying PBC to play nice with Arum. They'd be trying to run everyone else out of the market so PBC can become a monopoly like UFC.

Idk why it necessarily would need to work like that. I think its +EV for ESPN to keep TR & do deals with others.

Plus if PBC is still dealing with Fox, as is being suggested in this thread, why would ESPN wanna put all their eggs in one basket with someone who's working with another ent^ty & would likely be splitting their quality fights between those two ent^ty's?

[Eff Pandas]

ESPN just inked a 7 year deal with TR so I don't know how that would work. I don't think that is what ESPN would want. They would want to keep both the PBC and TR and just control combat sports as an whole.

Agree. Its super +EV for ESPN to have more partners not just flip one partner for another. I know lotsa people here don't see DAZN being a serious competitor to ESPN, BUT they could be in various sports if they can pick up enough slack. And right now boxing is a battleground sport for Sports Networks with HBO out of the game & with DAZN trying to make moves into sports & specifically boxing right now.

[quote]Maybe Emanuel goes back and tries to purchase TR like he did a few years back? [/quote[

This is a possibility. And a solid move to make for Endeavor to "take over" boxing if thats the goal they are going for.

I've been saying for awhile from the beginning of PBC to DAZN to becoming a player to now with Endeavor looking to get into boxing that boxing is a completely takeoverable sport. And just like I suggested PBC could do it at one time & then DAZN more recently I think Endeavor could as well. Someone is gonna I'm confident in that cuz there is too much money in boxing for a person who controls the sport & the parts are becoming smaller & therefore easier to conquer/buyout.

He's going to quickly realize though that boxing isn't nearly as profitable as the UFC since the A side fighters make so much of the money opposed to the UFC. Will be interesting to see if he tries to adjust their paying scale.

If anyone takes over boxing the pay scale will become more reasonable obviously, but there is a sh^tton of money to be made in boxing if you can make it into a bigger sport like it used to be. But I think there is plenty of money to be made in boxing & I think there is even more to be made if we can see boxing made into a sport where there are 3 or 4 super fights a year like there easily could be if one hand was controlling the sport.

[pillowfists98]

This would be good news for the PBC and for boxing fans. I hope Endeavor is successful and the deal goes through.

[DARTH SILKWORMS]

ESPN just inked a 7 year deal with TR so I don't know how that would work. I don't think that is what ESPN would want. They would want to keep both the PBC and TR and just control combat sports as an whole.

Maybe Emanuel goes back and tries to purchase TR like he did a few years back?

He's going to quickly realize though that boxing isn't nearly as profitable as the UFC since the A side fighters make so much of the money opposed to the UFC. Will be interesting to see if he tries to adjust their paying scale.

7 years isn't an eternity. If Endeavor is taking the long view, they may feel in the next UFC TV negotiations, they can leverage UFC to prop up PBC as well. I'm not saying Top Rank would get knocked off of ESPN any time soon. I'm just speculating as to what Endeavor's end game would be.

If Endeavor can get a stranglehold of American boxing, perhaps they'd have the leverage to end the days of A-side fighters making such an incredible percentage of the overall revenue. For instance, if Endeavor has all the major TV dates between ESPN and Fox, if they started demanding a 33% management fee instead of 15%, you start to see how it shifts the value of PBC.

[DARTH SILKWORMS]

Idk why it necessarily would need to work like that. I think its +EV for ESPN to keep TR & do deals with others.

Plus if PBC is still dealing with Fox, as is being suggested in this thread, why would ESPN wanna put all their eggs in one basket with someone who's working with another ent^ty & would likely be splitting their quality fights between those two ent^ty's?

I'm not saying it would have to work like that. I'm just speculating as to what Endeavor's ideal scenario would be.

Fox and Showtime both share PBC, just as most major American sports are shared by multiple networks. All the major networks have the NFL. ESPN and Turner share the NBA. ESPN and Fox share baseball.

[Eff Pandas]

I'm not saying it would have to work like that. I'm just speculating as to what Endeavor's ideal scenario would be.

Yea me too.

Fox and Showtime both share PBC, just as most major American sports are shared by multiple networks. All the major networks have the NFL. ESPN and Turner share the NBA. ESPN and Fox share baseball.

I just think boxing is smaller then those sports so idk that ESPN would wanna split it so much if they are giving TR the boot. It'd be smarter to keep TR around if they are splitting PBC dates with Fox...and maybe even Showtime who knows. I'm just assuming Showtime might get the boot if things work out like were are speculating.