Ruiz has more advanced conditioning and endurance than Joshua!

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  • AlexKid
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    Ruiz has more advanced conditioning and endurance than Joshua!

    Excess fat doesn't use up excess cardio up in the same way excess muscle does, muscle like fat has to be carried around, but muscle on top of this needs its own oxygen supply fat does not.

    So Ruiz is in better physical condition than Joshua.

    He has better endurance work rate cardio, and is a more advanced athlete in terms of physical conditioning.











    Well developed muscles provide more disadvantage than advantage in boxing , even less advantage than being fat, optimal is like Joe Calzagge , Fury in shape, Ali, Vitali, and so on, ie a far more natural amount of muscle for your frame.


    Developed muscles are a massive cost to endurance with little added to power. The endurance side of things is so much more important than most other factors including power, its so unbelievably effective to have a high work rate and loads of endurance, its mad that they still come in with developed muscles even as big men.

    Big developed muscles dont work, they are a disadvantage, why do we still see them?
    Last edited by AlexKid; 06-06-2019, 11:33 AM.
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    Only small guys like Tyson and Holyfield can get away with development. Because their endurance isnt so hindered, its the last thing these big men should be doing. (they are already big heavy and sometimes powerful, they need endurance not more weight)

    But I bet Ruiz doesn't need to do as much cardio as Holyfield for the same work rate in the ring!

    Joshua should get a new strength and conditioning coach at least?
    Last edited by AlexKid; 06-06-2019, 11:42 AM.

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    • NearHypnos
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      I’ve never thought Joshua had a *terrible* gas tank though tbh prior to this when taking his physique into consideration. It’s not like he’s been a front runner.

      But a mexican fighter has a good gas tank. What’s new? Ruiz has a lot of fat on him but he’s no doubt a tank underneath all that. Impressive that he’s got speed and a tank on him for his size. I do think he has a better tank than AJ though. Clearly. Lol.

      Many have thought AJ might be a little too bulky he could probably stand to lose a few pounds but what do i know? Former gold medalist and hw champ. He’s doin somethin right. Still, i feel with his skills/polish and natural strength and power, being lighter could only benefit him. :/ Wilder has the right idea.

      What difference would 20 pounds make to their power? At their size, AJ’s left hook or right cross or uppercut is likely dropping any man on earth anyway. Same for Wilder. Wilder being a leaner HW just keeps him dangerous for longer.
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      • AlexKid
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        #4
        Joshua should get a new strength and conditioning coach at least?

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          Fat is dead weight useless. Does nothing but hinder, slows you down, makes you tired because you're carrying useless weight. If you're trying to saying being a fat **** is better than muscular you're an idiot.

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            I knew a lot of Mexicans with that physique. Roofed with some and they were nothing close to lazy. Think it's just genetics.

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              The truth is somewhere in the middle. AJ has too much muscle, but I think Ruiz would benefit from less fat as well. Wilder and Fury both have better stamina with better physiques. Wilder isn't as relaxed, but he can carry his power into the 12th round.

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              • AlexKid
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                #8
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                Fat is dead weight useless. Does nothing but hinder, slows you down, makes you tired because you're carrying useless weight. If you're trying to saying being a fat **** is better than muscular you're an idiot.
                adds power/weight without taxing cardio/endurance that much (compared to muscle)

                If you need to put on weight you should put on fat not muscle like Ruiz has.

                The bigger heavyweights need no fat and no excess muscle (just enough to function well as an athlete)
                Last edited by AlexKid; 06-06-2019, 11:46 AM.

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                • Robbie Barrett
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by AlexKid
                  adds power/weight without taxing cardio/endurance that much (compared to muscle)

                  If you need to put on weight you should put on fat not muscle like Ruiz has
                  No it doesn't add power. Fat people are strong because they build muscle from carrying fat around all the time. Having that muscle without the fat is obviously a better option.

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                  • AlexKid
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                    Originally posted by bballchump11
                    The truth is somewhere in the middle. AJ has too much muscle, but I think Ruiz would benefit from less fat as well. Wilder and Fury both have better stamina with better physiques. Wilder isn't as relaxed, but he can carry his power into the 12th round.
                    wrong, if Ruiz had less fat he wouldnt be heavy or powerful enough to deal with these much larger men, if he added muscle his cardio wouldn't be as good which is a huge asset esp vs big heavyweights, hes doing the smart thing (like Fedor the MMA GOAT)



                    Cro cop gassed because he has wayyy too much muscle mass for his frame, Fedor beat him on his feet because his weight is useful (for a grappler)/fat ie his endurance is less affected than the lean cro cop fighter

                    Boxers need less muscle mass than MMA fighters or grapplers, so if Fedor was only boxing he would be better off with less back muscle which is important in Judo/sambo

                    On top of that Fedors muscle is all sports specific throwing heavy pieces of metal around etc cro cop has gym muscle machine work in a gym etc like Joshua so they still do sport specific stuff but they do all the gym workout too, fedor doesnt touch machines or gym equipment its ALL sport specific and the correct rep ranges (no bodybuilding like a dumb western athlete) this is another factor ie muscle is not created equally (neither is the performance of those muscles, I bet fedors alot stronger than cro cop as well as being more enduranced )

                    Also high high quality muscle doesn't tend to be big, it doesn't fall into the high hypertrophy ranges often times
                    Last edited by AlexKid; 06-06-2019, 12:15 PM.

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