Andy Ruiz: "If Joshua wants rematch in the UK, they gotta give me 50 million."

[K-DOGG]

Interesting demand...and why not? Obviously, Joshua's backers have the dough, based upon Joshua's paydays so far. At the very least, Ruiz deserves a 50/50 split with Joshua, should the fight take place in England.

Ruiz is now with PBC; but Joshua is under contract with DAZN. I would think that PPV would be on the table for a rematch; but I am not sure what the contracts of bother fighters with their respective promoters looks like.

My thought being, that both Haymon and Hearn are going to want to capitalize on the rematch and location and PPV would be a huge part of that deal. Since there was a rematch clause in the original contract, I would think that means, legally, Hearn and Joshua would have the legal upper hand.

Does anyone have any idea on the particulars and the limitations?

[Boxing Goat]

From Dan Rafael:

He earned more than $3 million for Saturday night's fight, and his purse for the rematch will be more than double that.

I heard that his purse was 7 million, the same as what was offered to Ortiz. That said, he won't get anywhere near 50 million. If he gets a 50/50 split of PPV in England, he'll be doing pretty well for himself IMO.

[Boxing Goat]

its just a power play they know they wont get it, just funny to see this all turn on eddie. the fight needs to happen in the US, aj should come put his foot down and do what he was supposed to do out here instead of running back home

I know but I don't agree that the fight needs to happen in the US. This one just happened here and the most money is in the UK. Besides that, I'm sure Ruiz has to do what the rematch clause specifies anyways so this demand means nothing.

[champion4ever]

This is much ado about nothing. The rematch won't be held in the U.K. Anyhow. It's going to be in America. Matchroom has a contractual agreement with DAZN that they do want to disturb. If the rematch is held in the U.K Then DAZN would simply pass on it and then Matchroom won't get paid.

[K-DOGG]

This is much ado about nothing. The rematch won't be held in the U.K. Anyhow. It's going to be in America. Matchroom has a contractual agreement with DAZN that they do want to disturb. If the rematch is held in the U.K Then DAZN would simply pass on it and then Matchroom won't get paid.

Very logical and a fight in the U.S., probably Vegas, makes a lot of sense. However, if it did go to the U.K. and DAZN passed on it...what is to keep Matchroom for using a traditional PPV in league with PBC, possibly SET to make the money by capitalizing on Ruiz's presumed Mexican and Mexican-American fan base?

If they staged it in the U.K., you've got a guaranteed HUGE live gate.....plus income from PPV across the water, presuming DAZN contractual obligations don't block such a move.

What prevents this scenario?

[champion4ever]

Very logical and a fight in the U.S., probably Vegas, makes a lot of sense. However, if it did go to the U.K. and DAZN passed on it...what is to keep Matchroom for using a traditional PPV in league with PBC, possibly SET to make the money by capitalizing on Ruiz's presumed Mexican and Mexican-American fan base?

If they staged it in the U.K., you've got a guaranteed HUGE live gate.....plus income from PPV across the water, presuming DAZN contractual obligations don't block such a move.

What prevents this scenario?

There's nothing DAZN could do if Matchroom decides to circumvent them. Mostly likely the fight would end up being telecast on Fox tv in America.

However, it would be risky business telecasting a matinee PPV type of boxing event on a Saturday afternoon in the U.S because Matchroom would narrow and marginalize their American viewing audience while losing a lot of money if they were to do so.

In addition, the fight would be competing with other sports as well like: College Football, College Basketball, Gymnastics, NASCAR, NFL and not to mention that most people would more than likely be away from their homes doing errands around that time slot anyway.

The best time slot for the maximum amount of viewers for this fight is on a late Saturday evening. A 3:00pm EST start to a Main Event boxing card in the U.S. Won't sell very well because hardly anyone in the States watches boxing anyhow.

[Iron Fister]

Ruiz clearly has no clue what he signed. We know Ortiz was offered $10m for the rematch should he of won and I'm sure he would of had no say in the rematch location so Ruiz is likely getting a flat fee and has to fight where ever Hearn and AJ choose the rematch to be.

How in the world can you know more about what is in the contract than Andy?

It seems as though the venue isn't agreed to.

[Ray*]

u may pick only one of the bolded

as u dont know what is in the contract u cant then say ruiz holds ALL the bargaining power

He has all the belts and a win over Joshua, He might not be able to dictate everything but he has a big bargaining chip.

[Iron Fister]

***** me you're a moron. Of course you can't buy your way out of a rematch clause. I can't find the details but the precedent is Lennox Lewis took Rahman to court because he tried to duck the rematch and of course won.

There is no way out of a rematch clause, you either fight, retire or go to court and lose and pay huge damages. It's that simple.

Or you fake an injury and drag it out.... DAZN and MARCHROOM are cornered by The Destroyer

[K-DOGG]

There's nothing DAZN could do if Matchroom decides to circumvent them. Mostly likely the fight would end up being telecast on Fox tv in America.

However, it would be risky business telecasting a matinee PPV type of boxing event on a Saturday afternoon in the U.S because Matchroom would narrow and marginalize their American viewing audience while losing a lot of money if they were to do so.

In addition, the fight would be competing with other sports as well like: College Football, College Basketball, Gymnastics, NASCAR, NFL and not to mention that most people would more than likely be away from their homes doing errands around that time slot anyway.

The best time slot for the maximum amount of viewers for this fight is on a late Saturday evening. A 3:00pm EST start to a Main Event boxing card in the U.S. Won't sell very well because hardly anyone in the States watches boxing anyhow.

But, if they wanted to capitalize, they would change the time slot to where it would air late in the U.S., yes?

Ruiz, in the wake of his victory, has become the first "Mexican" World Heavyweight Champ. Mexicans and Mexican-Americans make up a huge boxing fan base, in general. If they decide to adopt Ruiz Jr. with even a fraction of the following that Alvarez has...there's your PPV numbers in the U.S...….plus the Live Gate in Britain.

Would that not maximize the take?