Does the mexican fighting spirit and style come from their Aztec warrior blood?

[kafkod]

This. It also helps that part of that particular environment and culture is having, best I can tell, the highest # of pro boxers per capita of all the major boxing nations. For every Chavez or Canelo or Ruiz there's a 1000 who ain't.

Per boxrec Mexico with a population of about 130 million has 2419 pro boxers (male) in all classes, 1 per 54000. The USA with 328 million citizens has only slightly more at 2681, 1 per 122000, with the UK falling in between at approx 1 per 70000.

I'm gonna take a wild stab and guess that if you averaged out the # of titles held with the # of professional fighters coming from a country over a significant time frame you'd find that basically there ain't that much difference between the success of nations per capita. Might find the newer boxing nations such as the Ukraine and Russian skew this a little since the trail has been blazed by elite amateurs without the mass of journeymen who make up the bulk of fighters in the traditional boxing nations (Ukraine for instance only has 190 pro fighters from a population 45 mil but is heavy with elite talent) but this phenomenon will fade over time. In short people are people and it's very much more about the individual and the opportunities available to em that any particular race or culture being better fighters.

As pointed out by 'Pandas above every culture that has survived to the present day has a strong martial tradition, but ultimately the biggest deciding factor of which countries produce the most boxers seems to be a combination of tradition and access to the sport and poverty - or at least wealth inequality. In the majority hardship and lack of alternative opportunities are what drive people to try to make a living from beating the snot out of each other.

The bolded is the decisive element, imo.

The length of time that boxing has mattered in a particular country, or to a particular ethnic group within that country, is also relevant. Having a strong fighting tradition instills pride in that tradition, and also confidence that you, as an individual, have what it takes to compete with the best.

That's what the so called "fighting blood " of the Mexicans, Gypsies, or whoever, really is. Tradition, pride, and confidence, not genes.

[EdWins]

They are in Mexico, the descendants of the Conquistadors who virtually wiped out the Aztec males and impregnated the females with their warrior genes!

Canelo is legit prolly the only mexican boxer out there with more Spanish blood than native mexican, hell I don't even think that nígga got spanish blood prolly a mixture of Irish/Nordic/mexican native

[Lion81]

It's far more likely to come from the Spanish Conquistadors who vanquished the Aztecs, subjugated them, ****d their women, and took their land and gold.

The Conquistadors were a mean bunch of bastards.

I've always believed it's the hybrid.

Conquistadores + Aztecs = some ruthless mother***ers.

You're basically mixing the meanest Europeans with the meanest Indians.

[ΣNΣMY]

nope ever heard of "La noche triste" look it up. The Spaniards were gettin they asses whooped even with guns and cannons and horses, they was gettin their shít pushed in until they unified rival indigenous tribes on their side to take down the Mexicahs (Aztecs).

Not to mention the diseases they were spreadin, smallpox, malaria, yellow fever, measles that we had no immunity to

Lol those 500 spaniards were on a full retreat until they ran into enemy tribes of the Aztecs. The enemy tribes joined forces with the Spaniards to finally rid them of their powerful enemies. Fair play to the Spaniards but it wasnt 500 brave Bull runners that "conquered" the Aztecs. Lol

Less than 500 fighting men and now they speak their language and worship their God. The stone agers could fire an arrow faster than they could load those super crude muskets and they had to be real close to be hit by one. Let that sink in, less than 500 fighting men then the culture of millions no longer existed.

[sapo13]

I say yes. The Aztecs had many beliefs about battle they believed if you give up in battle you will not go to the after life. They also had to vow never to take a step backwards in battle....so now take a look at the Mexican style of fighting is it just a coincidence? I think not

[sapo13]

Tru 200k incas and myans and other mexican tribes joined forces with the Spanish to defeat the Aztecs..
.the spanish were in full retreat

[sapo13]

No the spanish were getting smashed by the aztecs....the spanish were in full tetreat and were run off by the aztecs....the spanish joines forces with approx 200k other mezican tribes to defeat the Aztecs.......

[Boris Johnson!]

no, most large nations have warriors and ruthless kings/emperors in their history

[EdWins]

Less than 500 fighting men and now they speak their language and worship their God. The stone agers could fire an arrow faster than they could load those super crude muskets and they had to be real close to be hit by one. Let that sink in, less than 500 fighting men then the culture of millions no longer existed.

It wasn't less than 500 men.. they formed an alliance with over 100,000 plus Tlaxcalans and other rival indigenous tribes to take on the aztec. Not to mention the diseases that nearly wiped them all out, of course the Aztec were going to collapse, but were actually destroying the Spaniards before they retreated and unified our rivals.

[EdWins]

I've always believed it's the hybrid.

Conquistadores + Aztecs = some ruthless mother***ers.

You're basically mixing the meanest Europeans with the meanest Indians.

good point but I think the most ruthless europeans are the russians.

them russians are fcking scary