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  • Stinger1
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    #121
    Originally posted by hitking
    Great. So if that’s the case, Ruiz can tell them to kiss his ass and then what? Take him to court? Then it’s gonna look like they’re trying to get Ruiz over there so they can rob him. Then AJ will look like an even bigger joke to pretty much everyone that doesn’t talk with one of those goofy ass accents they have over there.
    Then Ruiz shouldn't of signed to fight AJ in the first place. Ruiz has no option other than to fight AJ for probably less than $10m when ever and where ever AJ says.

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    • hitking
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      #122
      Originally posted by Stinger1
      Then Ruiz shouldn't of signed to fight AJ in the first place. Ruiz has no option other than to fight AJ for probably less than $10m when ever and where ever AJ says.
      He does have an option like I said. Tell Team AJ to kiss his ass.

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      • Stinger1
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        #123
        Originally posted by hitking
        He does have an option like I said. Tell Team AJ to kiss his ass.
        The only options he has are retire, fight on the agreed terms in the rematch clause or be sued and stripped of his belts.

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        • SugarRaRobinson
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          #124
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          That's right go look at the contract, i'm sure it will say matchroom has the choice of location and venue, i'm sure Hearn can't be ****** enough to leave that out.
          Y do u even care about this ?
          Still hedging for white power hoping Hearn and company are still in charge and r calling shots ?

          Well, I guess u gotta live with Haymon fighters being in full control of the Heavyweight division at the moment, lol.
          Last edited by SugarRaRobinson; 06-06-2019, 10:04 AM.

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          • CJFRENCH
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            #125
            True but they can try to negotiate

            Originally posted by Stinger1
            The only options he has are retire, fight on the agreed terms in the rematch clause or be sued and stripped of his belts.
            Yes but Ruiz and his team can put forward other options such as fight in USA or Mexico ........but it will no doubt cost them as it will breach the original contract.

            I have no doubt Wilder v Ruiz will come up and this maybe Wilders only chance now to get all the belts; If this fight is put forward they would have to pay a massive step aside to AJ and probably sign a contract to agree to let him fight the winner....but basically Ruiz has to follow through with the rematch or be sued. Also if he avoids the rematch mandatory's will come into play and he could lose some of the belts by not defending them.

            This is possibly AJ's last big payday if he loses thats it. Also if he steps aside and rebuilds to work his way back up again his paydays will go down. If he is not ready and needs to learn the WK style to fight big, then maybe there could be a deal on the table to step aside (get paid for not fighting) and then come back ready. We shall see...........

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            • Stinger1
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              #126
              Originally posted by CJFRENCH
              Yes but Ruiz and his team can put forward other options such as fight in USA or Mexico ........but it will no doubt cost them as it will breach the original contract.

              I have no doubt Wilder v Ruiz will come up and this maybe Wilders only chance now to get all the belts; If this fight is put forward they would have to pay a massive step aside to AJ and probably sign a contract to agree to let him fight the winner....but basically Ruiz has to follow through with the rematch or be sued. Also if he avoids the rematch mandatory's will come into play and he could lose some of the belts by not defending them.

              This is possibly AJ's last big payday if he loses thats it. Also if he steps aside and rebuilds to work his way back up again his paydays will go down. If he is not ready and needs to learn the WK style to fight big, then maybe there could be a deal on the table to step aside (get paid for not fighting) and then come back ready. We shall see...........
              AJ has exercised the clause in the contract, the rematch is happening. Ruiz is going to get less than $10m so whatever else the fight makes AJ gets on top. Haymon isn't going to be able to pay AJ step aside money when he will likely get $40-50m for this fight.

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              • Roberto Vasquez
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                #127
                Its probably in the contract that the fight has to be in the UK. It makes sense - if your fighter loses his titles in the US. He is more likely to win them back in the UK

                Also Ruiz was a late replacement for the opportunity of a lifetime. He probably just signed up to everything

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                • CJFRENCH
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                  #128
                  and what happens to fighters who break contracts: they do not fight at all until it is settled. So yes Ruiz can try but he will lose big time and in the mean time his mandatory's will come up and he will lose all the belts. Look at fighters who try to leave promoters when still under contract, do they get to fight while the lawyers sort it out: No they do not fight under their old promoter and neither do they fight for any new promoter until it is all settled.

                  Ruiz will have to pay to get out of the contract and to make it worth while he needs a bigger higher paying fight to cover those costs.

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                  • Joe shmo
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
                    No controversy here, Ruiz has more leverage than the first fight obviously. Like any contract negotiation there will be give and take on both sides to make it acceptable for all parties. I will be on my couch watching and I have both DAZN and Showtime so the venue and network don't really matter to me. I won't receive any kickbacks financially from Hearn nor Haymon so I don't care who is considered to have won that aspect. I just look forward to the fight of/when it happens. It's amazing how enjoyable it is when you really only care about the fighters and fights.
                    Good post man!!!! 👍

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                    • strykr619
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                      We don't know what he signed. Do you?
                      You don't as well but rematch clauses NORMALLY are set in stone and the winner of the first fight "does call shots because he won".

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