Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder on Joshua Clash: We Still Gonna Fight, Why Not

[Mrbamladen]

Wilder sounds like he put down the marketing megaphone for a moment and spoke rationally, and agree with everything he said.

There has to be some lingering disappointment with Joshua. Wilder took a gamble in turning down the DAZN deal he was offered figuring they would either sweeten the deal, else he could top it some other way.

The gamble relied on them both continuing to win, but AJ didn't, and with AJ losing much of his allure, Wilder may be faced with not being able to match the numbers in the DAZN deal again - ie gamble didn't pay off, but through no fault of his own.

Events may still come good so that Wilder can top the original DAZN deal, but not looking as rosy as it did.

Actually the gamble already paid off. Wilder has two ppv fights already lined up. He wins those and ruiz wins the aj rematch....... We get the undisputed heavyweight championship fight between two American champions with one being Mexican for the first time ever. How much ppv revenue do you think that brings in, particularly if they fight cinco de mayo weekend???? That fight easily is bigger money wise than a aj fight could ever be. Had he not gambled on himself, right now he would be locked into a dazn deal with nobody to fight. One fight vs ruiz like stated above probably doubles the 80m dazn offered for 2 AJ fights.

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I highly doubt Joshua wants this fight. Joshua is not a warrior.

If Ruiz was too much for him, do you really think he wants to face wilder? Nope lol.

[Oldskoolg]

Wilder KOs Joshua no later than the 3rd round....that fight is over as soon as wilder lands the right hand

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idiot what he's saying is that now Joshy can't duck anymore. that's why the fight will happen now.

I still want to see the fight. Granted some of the life had been ****** out of it, but I’d still pay to see the fight.

Sorry Wilder but AJ ain't coming nowhere near you.

Of course we still want to see Joshua Wilder. Fighters have careers. This isn’t a “once you lose” sport it’s over like the Brits think.

Pacquiao lost to Marquez before Mayweather fought him.

Tyson lost to Douglas before Holyfield fought him.

Hearns lost to Leonard before Hagler fought him.

AJ can follow in the footsteps of these greats.

I hope so, it's a fight I still want to see. Styles makes fights. Just because Ruiz had success against AJ, doesn't mean Wilder will do the same.

If Ruiz was too much for him, do you really think he wants to face wilder?

That's like getting your ass terrorized by a dog, and then signing up to fight a wolf next.

I don't think Joshua is going anywhere near Wilder. He was already broken down mentally by ruiz, he's already dreading that rematch.. He wants no part of wilder.

I bet this fight never happens. Joshua will retire before he steps in the ring with wilder.

[angkag]

Actually the gamble already paid off. Wilder has two ppv fights already lined up. He wins those and ruiz wins the aj rematch....... We get the undisputed heavyweight championship fight between two American champions with one being Mexican for the first time ever. How much ppv revenue do you think that brings in, particularly if they fight cinco de mayo weekend???? That fight easily is bigger money wise than a aj fight could ever be. Had he not gambled on himself, right now he would be locked into a dazn deal with nobody to fight. One fight vs ruiz like stated above probably doubles the 80m dazn offered for 2 AJ fights.

Not sure, the DAZN deal was 20m for Breazeale, then 80m for two AJ fights. Going his own way, Wilder is already 10m down on the Breazeale fight, but that was the price he was willing to pay to not be locked into DAZN.

Wilder could still pull it out, but he's got 90m to make up in his next two fights. If a Cinco de Drinko Wilder/Ruiz fight is bigger than Wilder/AJ because of the Mexican fans, doesn't that suggest Ruiz would be A side (defn. brings in most of the money) such that we end up in negotiations again where Wilder has to accept less than 50% ? Would he ?

Would the Mexican fan base really make Wilder/Ruiz bigger than Wilder AJ ? I'm not so sure - beauty of Wilder/AJ originally was reflected at the bookies where it was almost 50/50, whereas Wilder/Ruiz will be expected to be a blowout for Wilder (I know, I know, so was Ruiz/Joshua, but bookies will have Wilder as an overwhelming favourite).

Lets say Ruiz wins the rematch with AJ (and IF the same AJ turns up, he probably will), what next ? Ruiz would either have to go Wilder straight away, else have to survive mandatories against the likes of Usyk, Whyte, Pulev, which are not gimmes. So he wouldn't have the luxury of the usual marination period (good from a boxing fan perspective), and would have to go Wilder right away - I think it would be a reasonably big fight, but not the previously hoped-for Wilder/AJ level.

Meantime if Wilder continues on his current path (Ortiz/Fury), and Ruiz wins the rematch, it leaves Ruiz in the wind to potentially lose a mandatory - suggestion here being that Wilder might put Fury on hold and go Ruiz first - so Fury might be the one to lose out in the short term, although an eventual Wilder/Fury fight for all the marbles could be worth the wait.

AJ losing has thrown the cards up in the air and hard to say where they land. Even if he beats Ruiz in the rematch, the odds of AJ beating Wilder have already slipped from that sweetspot of 50/50, and the shine of Wilder/AJ has gone somewhat.

Hard to see Wilder making up that 90m.

[Nomadic]

If Ruiz was too much for him, do you really think he wants to face wilder?

That's like getting your ass terrorized by a dog, and then signing up to fight a wolf next.

I don't think Joshua is going anywhere near Wilder. He was already broken down mentally by ruiz, he's already dreading that rematch.. He wants no part of wilder.

I bet this fight never happens. Joshua will retire before he steps in the ring with wilder.

LMAO.....true. Sad if that's the case.

[The tucker]

Classy statement by the champ. Too many boxing fans loose track of this being an actual sport.

In no other sport including UFC is there a belief amongst this many fans that someone is completely washed up and should retire after there first loss. Especially as an heavyweight, fight long enough and you will get caught.

If AJ loves boxing he will be back. And it’s possible after seeing the brutality of these fickle fake fans and selfish promoters, he will come back with a mentality better fitting of a Champion.

Fight the best competion and stay sharp. Fight mediocre fighters and you pick up lazy traits and bad habits that put health at risk.

There is nothing wrong in taking a loss. The problem is your rival not fighting you until you lose or look bad.

[angkag]

I highly doubt Joshua wants this fight. Joshua is not a warrior.

If Ruiz was too much for him, do you really think he wants to face wilder? Nope lol.

Joshua showed he was a warrior against Klitschko, but Poshua showed up for Ruiz, so decides who shows up, Josh or Posh.

[Curt Henning]

So Wilder wants Ruiz's leftovers now.

Amazing that he was not certain of the fight before hand, but now after the defeat he is.

wilder said many times the fight will happen..."be patient"

god..you guys should just go away and hide until AJ gets his rematch and hope he can avenge this....cause every time you fools open your mouths you just look more dumb than the time before...jfc....gtfoh forreal

the first cut is the deepest....but there will be better days...hang in there

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Joshua showed he was a warrior against Klitschko, but Poshua showed up for Ruiz, so decides who shows up, Josh or Posh.

Wlad is not ruiz. Wlad did not dog Joshua like Ruiz did.

Wlad was an old man.

Ruiz threw Joshua around like a rag doll and didn't show any effect from his punches. The harder Joshua hit him, the harder ruiz came back. It wasn't even a hard fight for ruiz.