Better Career: MORALES OR DE LA HOYA?

[El Jesus]

Why do you people put emphasis on these damn "wars". You ever think De La Hoya doesnt get into 'wars" because he was too intelligent ringwise and had enough pure boxing skill to where going to "war" wasnt really nessecary?

[SnoopySmurf]

Let's not forget that Oscar had a few gift decisions from Whitaker, Sturm and some even say Quartey.

[oldgringo]

Why do you people put emphasis on these damn "wars". You ever think De La Hoya doesnt get into 'wars" because he was too intelligent ringwise and had enough pure boxing skill to where going to "war" wasnt really nessecary?

Morales can box when he wants to, using the long jab and right hand to pick off his smaller opponents. He just gets into slugging matches because he has too much pride to let someone get away with hitting him clean without coming back at them.

[King Koyle]

Morales can box when he wants to, using the long jab and right hand to pick off his smaller opponents. He just gets into slugging matches because he has too much pride to let someone get away with hitting him clean without coming back at them.

Erik has a great jab when he decides to use it.

[oldgringo]

Look at every single one of Oscars biggest fights:

Whitaker - Very controversial, DLH is dropped and outboxed for a good part of the fight but takes the fight by 6!!! points on some cards?

Trinidad - Oscar boxes beautifully early but gives away rounds late...loses a drama filled majority decision.

Mosely 1&2 - Oscar is sluggish in the first fight and is clearly beaten by the better Mosely. The second fight in controversial as Oscar performs much more like Oscar, but alas he is still on the losing end of a unanimous decision. Controversy ensues...

Quartey - Oscar is beaten up in this one. He doesn't really find an answer for Ike's physicality all night and changes his luck in the final round when he finds a burst and puts Ike down. I think the 12th pulled the blinders over people eyes as to what happened throughout the first 11 rounds of the fight....controversy ensues because of the close SD and because Oscar NEVER gives Ike a rematch.

Vargas - Good fight, no controversy on Oscar's end but more on Vargas' end...and he roids up for the performance.

Sturm - Many feel that Oscar lost this fight, but Sturm put himself in the position to get a bad decision against the home team. Oscar shows up fat and sluggish, it outboxed and shows it at the end of the fight.

Hopkins - Oscar is very stiff and robotic, has a few rounds that he wins because of Hopkins' ever so strange reluctance to attack his smaller man. Oscar is KOed his one punch by a body shot and controversy ensues when people speculate that he took a dive. He enters into a business relationship with B-Hop soon after

[Left2body]

Why do you people put emphasis on these damn "wars". You ever think De La Hoya doesnt get into 'wars" because he was too intelligent ringwise and had enough pure boxing skill to where going to "war" wasnt really nessecary?

Because often times thats when we see a fighter actually tested to his limits. Ali-Frazier, Sugar Ray-Duran/Hagler/Hearns, Corrales-Castillo.....etc

Oscar did have a good "war" with Vargas though. But this has also been a knock on RJJ.

[SnoopySmurf]

Look at every single one of Oscars biggest fights:


Vargas - Good fight, no controversy on Oscar's end but more on Vargas' end...and he roids up for the performance.

I call controversy when Oscar showed up with body armor around his rib cage. That pretty much nullified Vargas' body attack.

[King Koyle]

I call controversy when Oscar showed up with body armor around his rib cage. That pretty much nullified Vargas' body attack.

Yeah,sometimes Oscar uses that thing as a bra.

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Look at every single one of Oscars biggest fights:

Whitaker - Very controversial, DLH is dropped and outboxed for a good part of the fight but takes the fight by 6!!! points on some cards?

Trinidad - Oscar boxes beautifully early but gives away rounds late...loses a drama filled majority decision.

Mosely 1&2 - Oscar is sluggish in the first fight and is clearly beaten by the better Mosely. The second fight in controversial as Oscar performs much more like Oscar, but alas he is still on the losing end of a unanimous decision. Controversy ensues...

Quartey - Oscar is beaten up in this one. He doesn't really find an answer for Ike's physicality all night and changes his luck in the final round when he finds a burst and puts Ike down. I think the 12th pulled the blinders over people eyes as to what happened throughout the first 11 rounds of the fight....controversy ensues because of the close SD and because Oscar NEVER gives Ike a rematch.

Vargas - Good fight, no controversy on Oscar's end but more on Vargas' end...and he roids up for the performance.

Sturm - Many feel that Oscar lost this fight, but Sturm put himself in the position to get a bad decision against the home team. Oscar shows up fat and sluggish, it outboxed and shows it at the end of the fight.

Hopkins - Oscar is very stiff and robotic, has a few rounds that he wins because of Hopkins' ever so strange reluctance to attack his smaller man. Oscar is KOed his one punch by a body shot and controversy ensues when people speculate that he took a dive. He enters into a business relationship with B-Hop soon after

Other than Hopkins, the hype for Oscar's bouts with Hernandez, Chavez and Ruelas were far bigger.

I thought he beat Sturm, he beat Whitaker, he beat Quartey.

I had him losing the fight to Quartey going into the final round, but in my opinion he pulled out a 10-7 round and in most the cases the ref would have stopped the fight with the way Quartey was getting ****ed up against the ropes. Oscar never gave him a rematch because Quartey wanted a ****load of money.

Sturm also had the fight won but gave it away by never attacked Oscar when he gassed or doing anything other than a jab for the last four rounds.

Whitaker also had the fight won and decided to clown around for the last three rounds, especially the final round.

De La Hoya robbed against Mosley big time in the second fight. Even he admits he lost the first time in a fight that almost won fight of the year honors.

[deliveryman]

Let's see...

Oscar has fought:

Benard Hopkins
Shane Mosley
Fernando Vargas
Felix Trinidad
Oba Carr
Ike Quartey
Julio Cesar Chavez
Pernell Whitaker
Hector Camacho
Genaro Hernandez
Floyd Mayweather Jr.(soon enough)

along with:
Gatti
Leija
Ruelas
Mayorga

Oscar has his own promotion company, which has signed 4 future hall of famers such as: Mosley, Hopkins, Wright and DLH.

Oscar has been the FACE of boxing for the past decade.

And making over $20 mill a fight doesn't hurt either.

This isn't even a contest on who had the better career.