How screwed is Matchroom?

[Mammoth]

Good point. It’s not only AJ, but also Jacobs loosing to Canelo. Jacobs was suppose to be an American icon for Matchroom.

And Hooker is going to fight Ramirez, Andrade is gonna fight Canelo and Haney will fight Loma?

[Simurgh]

And Hooker is going to fight Ramirez, Andrade is gonna fight Canelo and Haney will fight Loma?

And all three will probably lose, and even if some of them somehow wins I cannot see how you can make any of them in big names in the US. The best chances were with AJ and Jacobs, but that is now gone.

[_Rexy_]

They’ve got Devin Haney. If they manage him right he’s the next huge American star.

[Mammoth]

They'll still be GBP. And they'll still have guys on the rise. And they'll still get bigger names cuz of their connections.

Same deal with Matchroom. What was Matchroom before Joshua. They were still relevant. They'll still be relevant without Joshua.

The biggest problem is Matchroom USA, not Matchroom overall, which seemingly had a ball sitting on a tee with this Joshua project in the US. Now they are the Devin Haney show & maybe Joshua holes up back in the UK for the rest of his days.

There's actually quite a few fighters I like between the Matchroom and Golden Boy stables. Ortiz, Madrimov, Hunter, Hrgovic, Hernandez. Haney, Gassiev, Andrade, Usyk. There is good stuff there but no stars many will download an app for.

[Eff Pandas]

There's actually quite a few fighters I like between the Matchroom and Golden Boy stables. Ortiz, Madrimov, Hunter, Hrgovic, Hernandez. Haney, Gassiev, Andrade, Usyk. There is good stuff there but no stars many will download an app for.

Thats a DAZN problem not a Matchroom or GBP problem.

If DAZN sinks, & if they do its not likely to be for years & years, then Matchroom & GBP just find new guys with money to give them.

And hell Matchroom doesn't even gotta find a new money guy in the US. They can just bail on this US thing & stick to the UK/Sky situation which they were doing fine with before making the big & risky US jump & they'll still run circles around Warren or anyone else in the UK I imagine.

[Eff Pandas]

They’ve got Devin Haney. If they manage him right he’s the next huge American star.

If Haney is serious about fighting Loma & beats him that'd be huge statement & could be something that makes him a star.

The problem for DAZN fighters right now is can you make yourself a star on a app seemingly so few people are watching. Part of making yourself a star is having access to casual fans that push you into a higher realm of popularity then hardcore boxing fans are gonna get you to. Can you attract casuals to a app that only offers sports & primarily boxing right now?

Idek the answer to that question, but I'm not super confident the answer is yes.

[DaNeutral.]

You gotta be patient with these ones. They're so emotionally damaged over this that they're still transitioning from denial to anger. The slow ones are still in denial.

So you agree? Matchroom going under now?

[DaNeutral.]

And Hooker is going to fight Ramirez, Andrade is gonna fight Canelo and Haney will fight Loma?

Sounds like some promoters have the balls to put risky fights on instead of mismatch push overs all the time.

[Mammoth]

I'm still thinking about this one. Joshua was the real money maker of the company.

[Mammoth]

They’ve got Devin Haney. If they manage him right he’s the next huge American star.

Manage him right means no Loma for now.