If Joshua was a “HypeJob” why didn’t Wilder accept $100million+?

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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #31
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    You know Wilder isn't his own boss and know why he and Ortiz didn't take the offers. Pretending otherwise so you can artificially inflate AJ by claiming Wilder and Ortiz ducked him is just British fanbot desperately trying to keep British HWT boxing relevant after Fury came off like a coward after he ran from the rematch by signing with TR (knowing Bob wasn't going to make the rematch) and AJ getting destroyed.

    You nor I know what is in the contract. We know a venue hasn't been selected and I am sure Ruiz team will get a hefty increase.
    Rematch clauses don't work like that. The terms are already set out, they don't negotiate because what would be the point of a clause then. FFS. I don't know why i bother with such ****** people.

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    • GloveInspector
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      #32
      Listen, idk if someone has already said this but you ******s need to understand that this is a business. That supposed $100 Million was for him to sign was DAZN and then fight Joshu, Wilder doesn’t want to limit himself to only being on DAZN. Especially once he knocked AJ’s head off, then he’s stuck there.

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        #33
        Originally posted by GloveInspector
        Listen, idk if someone has already said this but you ******s need to understand that this is a business. That supposed $100 Million was for him to sign was DAZN and then fight Joshu, Wilder doesn’t want to limit himself to only being on DAZN. Especially once he knocked AJ’s head off, then he’s stuck there.
        In other words, 3 fights equals 10 fights? You do realize the point of contracts is that you agree to the terms...terms that the press would be lied to and that Wilder would be “stuck” there? Does Finkel read contracts blind folded? Lol

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        • LetOutTheCage
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          #34
          Originally posted by _Rexy_
          I'm entirely speculating. I'm actually one of the few saying all the sparring stories are likely BS.

          But there's a lot of them. Personally, I find it ****ed up that people would rather credit joey dawejko for this win than Andy Ruiz Jr.
          Yeah that's not what I was doing, nice try though

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          • uppercut510
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            #35
            Originally posted by bundt
            just some bad luck and bad advising from wilders camp. With dazn money, he could have possibly had a canelo contract after smashing joshua 2x and then a life and death battle in a fury trilogy.
            for no belts!!!!!!!

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            • El_Mero
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              #36
              Originally posted by Godsfly
              100 million from dazn? Bro....wilder is already with Haymon. Why burn a bridge there fighting dominic on dazn? If we are talking about wilder vs Joshua it should be only those 2 no other fighter under the network. Just Joshua vs wilder. Also there was no 40% split (as in for all revenue) hearn wanted to give him 40 million flat fee for the Joshua fight with partial splits. Before that he wanted wilder to accept a 15 million flat fee with no percentage......theres really no percentage split. The problem is the fight could have grossed 100s of millions.
              Wilder is a free agent though. a 4 fight deal wouldve been easy work for one face-one name. Breaz, AJ x2 and #4 vs maybe Whyte? Then HUGE PPV vs Fury? Oh well. No BIG money for Wilder, one last big money fight for AJ if he loses the rematch.

              Wilder's advisers screwed this up imo...

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #37
                Originally posted by El_Mero
                Wilder is a free agent though. a 4 fight deal wouldve been easy work for one face-one name. Breaz, AJ x2 and #4 vs maybe Whyte? Then HUGE PPV vs Fury? Oh well. No BIG money for Wilder, one last big money fight for AJ if he loses the rematch.

                Wilder's advisers screwed this up imo...
                What if Wilder loses to Ortiz or Fury?

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  Rematch clauses don't work like that. The terms are already set out, they don't negotiate because what would be the point of a clause then. FFS. I don't know why i bother with such ****** people.
                  Where did I say the terms weren't set out? You have no idea what is in the contract. You have no idea what has to be worked out. You have no idea how much Ruiz will make. That is what I posted and that is a fact.

                  You want to tap out because I keep reminding you Haymon wouldn't let Wilder and Ortiz sign DAZN deals, which kills you're desperate "Wilder and Ortiz ducked AJ" deflection attempt since AJ got embarrassed and Fury ran away.

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                  • El_Mero
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    You know Wilder isn't his own boss and know why he and Ortiz didn't take the offers. Pretending otherwise so you can artificially inflate AJ by claiming Wilder and Ortiz ducked him is just British fanbot desperately trying to keep British HWT boxing relevant after Fury came off like a coward after he ran from the rematch by signing with TR (knowing Bob wasn't going to make the rematch) and AJ getting destroyed.
                    According to Wilder, he is his own boss. He's said it time and time again. He called Hearn a slave master. i know you remember that.

                    As for the Fury coward comment, last i read, Fury rematch IS happening, after the Ortiz rematch. So what exactly are you fuming about?

                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    the only people that have ever blamed wilder for that fight not coming off are ajs internet groupies

                    in real life people in boxing...trainers, fighters, promoters...all pointed fingers at hearn and AJ

                    havent seen too many people blame wilder even after the 100 mil deal was turned down
                    turning down that 120 million contract was a great move.
                    Said nobody ever. Ruiz did Wilders dirty work and he looked pretty good doing it. Now Ruiz IS the face of the heavyweight boxing. He's charismatic, has a great story, speaks well and is bilingual. He stepped up when others wouldnt. From the looks of this past weekend, Wilder wouldve knocked AJ the fu.ck out. But he wont get the chance to now. Cause "til this day" he refused to fight him. Sad state of affairs. but hey go enjoy the ortiz rematch that EVERYONE wanted

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                    • El_Mero
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
                      What if Wilder loses to Ortiz or Fury?
                      possibility with Ortiz, but I highly doubt it. As for Fury, he already lost that fight.

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