Was Anthonh Joshua more ordinary under VADA?

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  • Kezzer
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    #31
    Originally posted by champion4ever
    Just to state for the record, the Andy Ruiz, Jr bout was the second consecutive bout that AJ had undergone VADA testing. The first time he was tested by VADA was in his previous bout against Alexander Povetkin.


    He did vada testing for the Klitschko fight and every fight since. He may have even done some before Klitschko..

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #32
      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
      I think it's clear he's on something. That physique isn't natural. I'm just wondering if it's something standard or an unknown "designer" PED that VADA doesn't test for.
      I've heard numerous MMA cats who can give mfers that eye test for PEDs that have called out mfers before &/or who we've seen their shape & results deflate in the USADA UFC era say Joshua is clearly on something illegal.

      I think boxing cats are more behind the learning curve with PED sh^t or just wanna believe people aren't using them as much.

      Jameel McCline, who never failed a test, admitting he had a f#cking PED team back in the day really opened my eyes to whats likely been happening & has me speculating more strongly what could be going on now. I wouldn't be surprised if all or most the top guys in any division is using something or working angles with grey area products that is becoming more of a thing & that the UFC is up on, but I doubt boxing has no clue about looking for yet.

      Respect to all the guys winning the cat & mouse PED catching game for now doe. Its sketchy & f#cked up but I get it.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Kezzer
        He did vada testing for the Klitschko fight and every fight since. He may have even done some before Klitschko..
        If you can find any other documents which supports your claim, then please feel free to share by posting them on this forum.



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        • NoConcoms
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          #34
          Who cares? He could be juiced to the gills, and he'd still lose to Andy Ruiz. It's a terrible styles matchup.

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            #35
            Originally posted by champion4ever
            Just to state for the record, the Andy Ruiz, Jr bout was the second consecutive bout that AJ had undergone VADA testing. The first time he was tested by VADA was in his previous bout against Alexander Povetkin.


            Interesting. You say Joshua has only done VADA twice while other people insist he has done it four or more times.

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              #36
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              Interesting. You say Joshua has only done VADA twice while other people insist he has done it four or more times.
              Exactly, I am not saying that they are lying. All I ask of them is to just provide the proof that Joshua has been testing for VADA since the Klitschko fight or since its inception. I say that because it's typically UKAD and the BBBoC who are the main doping testing agencies in Great Britain and not VADA.

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                #37
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                Exactly, I am not saying that they are lying. All I ask of them is to just provide the proof that Joshua has been testing for VADA since the Klitschko fight or since its inception. I say that because it's typically UKAD and the BBBoC who are the main doping testing agencies in Great Britain and not VADA.
                Last paragraph of this it's clearly easier to make stuff up than look yourself.

                NEW YORK – Wladimir Klitschko will be randomly tested by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association throughout training camp for his April 29 showdown with Anthony Joshua at Wembley Stadium in London.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Jax teller
                  Last paragraph of this it's clearly easier to make stuff up than look yourself.

                  https://www.boxingscene.com/wladimir...-fight--113190
                  That's very good. You've provided proof that this was not his second time testing for VADA. I stand corrected.

                  I am not a conspiracy theorist. I never blamed his loss on VADA testing. However many within the boxing circles have. As they have far more knowledge about this topic than I do.

                  In any case, Thanks buddy! I do appreciate the research! Nice find!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    Might that have something to do with his flaccid performance yesterday?

                    Probably why Floyd was against VADA

                    VADA probably would not have allowed him to take a PED masking IV as well.

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                    • Jax teller
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      Might that have something to do with his flaccid performance yesterday?
                      Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
                      That was my first thoughts I knew before the fight that it would be different that’s why they chose an easy opponent. Easier to get away with it in the UK under Vada.
                      What do you think of Wilder then? The guy just gained nearly a stone of pure muscle in 5 months as an athlete who is supposed to already be at his peak so that's pretty drastic change. Also Dillian Whyte said when he was in NY himself and a load of other fighters got randomly tested but Deontay who was in the area at the same time su****iously wasn't. Plus his brother from the same gym got popped as well. No smoke without fire right.

                      You guys are reaching so hard to discredit AJ further you're gonna put you're back out. Really if he's on peds he probably had them for this fight he didn't look different physically and his got enough money to cheat the system if he wanted to. Tbh I'd say he lost because he fought scared and that's it.

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