Was Anthonh Joshua more ordinary under VADA?

[Worick]

You could compare his performance to spencer's when brook had him do testing. Unimpressive

[ShoulderRoll]

What do you think of Wilder then? The guy just gained nearly a stone of pure muscle in 5 months as an athlete who is supposed to already be at his peak so that's pretty drastic change. Also Dillian Whyte said when he was in NY himself and a load of other fighters got randomly tested but Deontay who was in the area at the same time su****iously wasn't. Plus his brother from the same gym got popped as well. No smoke without fire right.

You guys are reaching so hard to discredit AJ further you're gonna put you're back out. Really if he's on peds he probably had them for this fight he didn't look different physically and his got enough money to cheat the system if he wanted to. Tbh I'd say he lost because he fought scared and that's it.

What do I think of Wilder?

I think that he's been doing VADA testing for a good long while now as part of the WBC's Clean Boxing program.

[Joel Osteen]

this fool doesn't know AJ has done VADA testing for his past 5 fights.

This ****** doesn't know the VADA testing is different when you contract the deal yourself and can control the release of the results. Whole different deal when other parties are contracted to receive testing results as well.

[Ray*]

Why are you guys looking for excuses why he lost? Did you guys really rated him this highly? Am actually shocked at all the excuses thats coming out from america for why he lost, i expect the excuses to be strictly from the Uk point of view. But all this americans are making excuses for him too damn!

[Joel Osteen]

You could compare his performance to spencer's when brook had him do testing. Unimpressive

Can't compare it at all. Spencer (Spence) won. Not only did he win he broke the the guy's face and made him pull a Brit job (Quit job). Brook couldn't be tough for another four minutes.

[Redd Foxx]

I've heard numerous MMA cats who can give mfers that eye test for PEDs that have called out mfers before &/or who we've seen their shape & results deflate in the USADA UFC era say Joshua is clearly on something illegal.

I think boxing cats are more behind the learning curve with PED sh^t or just wanna believe people aren't using them as much.

Jameel McCline, who never failed a test, admitting he had a f#cking PED team back in the day really opened my eyes to whats likely been happening & has me speculating more strongly what could be going on now. I wouldn't be surprised if all or most the top guys in any division is using something or working angles with grey area products that is becoming more of a thing & that the UFC is up on, but I doubt boxing has no clue about looking for yet.

Respect to all the guys winning the cat & mouse PED catching game for now doe. Its sketchy & f#cked up but I get it.

I would normally call BS on "eye test" stuff like that but I fully believe it. When I was bodybuilding I ran different cycles because the whole thing was fascinating to me. The science of it. I ended up studying it obsessively and getting knowledgeable enough that guys would ask me to draw up cycles and pct for them.
Seeing, and experiencing, the kinds of changes that happen in one's physique, you get an eye for the difference between natural and enhanced athletes. Certain muscle groups that tend to reach natural limits end up growing more easily. You also get a balanced/all around large look vs natural athletes whose genetics limit certain muscle groups.

Boxing training doesn't jack up your physique. In fact, all that cardio and low resistance repetition makes it hard to pack on muscle. AJ gives me the same impression that I had about Brock Lesnar and Alistair Overeem, and I wasn't wrong about those guys.

Anyhow, I haven't done any of that shyt in a few years because I promised myself I wouldn't let it *** up my health.

[Worick]

Can't compare it at all. Spencer (Spence) won. Not only did he win he broke the the guy's face and made him pull a Brit job (Quit job). Brook couldn't be tough for another four minutes.

Lol what? Spence looked bad. Brook was coming off a year layoff after getting his face broken by ggg. Took spencer the whole fight to get the job done.
Brit job........funny

[Eff Pandas]

I would normally call BS on "eye test" stuff like that but I fully believe it. When I was bodybuilding I ran different cycles because the whole thing was fascinating to me. The science of it. I ended up studying it obsessively and getting knowledgeable enough that guys would ask me to draw up cycles and pct for them.
Seeing, and experiencing, the kinds of changes that happen in one's physique, you get an eye for the difference between natural and enhanced athletes. Certain muscle groups that tend to reach natural limits end up growing more easily. You also get a balanced/all around large look vs natural athletes whose genetics limit certain muscle groups.

Boxing training doesn't jack up your physique. In fact, all that cardio and low resistance repetition makes it hard to pack on muscle. AJ gives me the same impression that I had about Brock Lesnar and Alistair Overeem, and I wasn't wrong about those guys.

Anyhow, I haven't done any of that shyt in a few years because I promised myself I wouldn't let it *** up my health.

I used to think the PED eye test thing was bs for a long time cuz it just sounds sorta bs-ish. The UFC USADA era transition showed me the light.

What are the exact body parts you can look & see are overdeveloped to the rest of the body? Or can it be different for different people? While I've heard many people talking about the PED eye test they rarely get into the specifics of where the particular person has failed it.

And randomly besides Joshua who are some guys the PED eye test suggest are using to you?

One thing I think with boxing guys is they are probably using different things than MMA guys cuz boxing is more of an endurance sport & I also think quickness is more of a key too. So outside of HW where power is more key to success I don't necessarily think an overdeveloped physical body is doing you as many favors. So I suspect the PED eye test is harder to produce results in lower weight boxing divisions. Or thats my theory anyway.

[Money Shot]

I think he has been on peds but he could pop any ped stack he wants and Jnr would still knock his ass out. Peds or lack of are not why he lost.