Why was Marquez such a nightmare for Pacquiao?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • MulaKO
    Zero F@cks Given
    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
    • Oct 2007
    • 26896
    • 6,762
    • 6,070
    • 221,421

    #11
    Originally posted by OCPancho
    I thought Juan won the third fight HANDILY.
    Pac's head was somewhere else that night.
    Juan did make that fight closer
    That’s what got him the fourth instalment
    But I did believe he won

    Insane when you think that these guys met four times
    Imagine that was today with all the ducking bullchit and promotional companies

    Comment

    • Gigantes
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Apr 2014
      • 3422
      • 117
      • 257
      • 27,739

      #12
      metallo and superman. metallo would get killed by many but is always able to give superman a good run.

      Comment

      • Mexican_Puppet
        Undisputed Champion
        • Sep 2014
        • 7879
        • 431
        • 924
        • 66,971

        #13
        Bradley never schooled Márquez

        It was a very competitive fight 115-113 to Tim


        Originally posted by MulaKO
        No jab at JMM but Pac was outboxing him in every fight
        Even when he got ko’d , up to that point he was winning fight
        Marquez was special fighter though
        This idi.ot again.

        In the first fight, except by the first round, Márquez dominated Pacquiao and definetely he won the third fight

        In the 4th fight he trained to gain muscle and K.O Pacquiao

        It was a risky movement because he was slow and he was taking much more.punishmen

        Comment

        • Ca$ual Fan
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Mar 2019
          • 2063
          • 51
          • 10
          • 41,406

          #14
          Originally posted by OCPancho
          Pac and Freddie just could not figure out JMM's half step back traps .
          Then again, you can also argue Pac was a nightmare for JMM.
          His facial scars are mostly from Pac.
          JMM was nailed countless times by that left hand when he backed-up.

          I think Freddie should have taught Manny how to change the elevation of his head a lot more.
          And Freddie is really not big on inside fighting. Pac could have used a lot more training in that department.
          Then again, boxing refs today are dumb. They don't allow much inside fighting now like Carlos Padilla or Davey Pearl.
          What Freddie should have taught Manny was to attack JMM on the other side instead following JMM's direction everytime JMM pivot's away from Manny's left. Manny was just too hard-headed or dumb to know that he kept following JMM's clockwise backwards movement getting sucker-punched by JMM's right hand every time - all just to try to land his left hand.

          In his series of fights with JMM, his right hand should have been the more utilized weapon instead he goes back to relying in his left.
          Last edited by Ca$ual Fan; 05-30-2019, 03:25 AM.

          Comment

          • Ca$ual Fan
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Mar 2019
            • 2063
            • 51
            • 10
            • 41,406

            #15
            Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
            In the 4th fight he trained to gain muscle and K.O Pacquiao
            He obviously knew where Manny's head was gonna be. He's already got Manny figured out in their 1st 3 fights. He just doesn't have enough power to KO Manny or at least put him down. He didn't actually care about getting outboxed anymore that 4th fight. All he just wanted to do was to land a powerful shot that would put Manny down. He did vow he would KO Manny that fight

            Comment

            • MulaKO
              Zero F@cks Given
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • Oct 2007
              • 26896
              • 6,762
              • 6,070
              • 221,421

              #16
              Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
              Bradley never schooled Márquez

              It was a very competitive fight 115-113 to Tim




              This idi.ot again.

              In the first fight, except by the first round, Márquez dominated Pacquiao and definetely he won the third fight

              In the 4th fight he trained to gain muscle and K.O Pacquiao

              It was a risky movement because he was slow and he was taking much more.punishmen
              Anything Mexican you are right
              All Mexican all day your right again
              And yes you’ve proven again to be Mexican idiot

              Si si idiota

              Comment

              • tdubb
                bwok bwok chicken chicken
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Nov 2009
                • 1021
                • 56
                • 19
                • 11,663

                #17
                Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
                He obviously knew where Manny's head was gonna be. He's already got Manny figured out in their 1st 3 fights. He just doesn't have enough power to KO Manny or at least put him down. He didn't actually care about getting outboxed anymore that 4th fight. All he just wanted to do was to land a powerful shot that would put Manny down. He did vow he would KO Manny that fight
                Yeah I bet, after coming into the ring as a linebacker.

                Comment

                • Nicamex
                  Contender
                  Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
                  • May 2013
                  • 209
                  • 6
                  • 9
                  • 14,556

                  #18
                  They were tailored made for each other. Other fighters never hurt him. The knock downs were more from his poor balance, everyone thinks he recovers crazy fast when actually hes not even hurt. When was he hurt? When he got hit when he was already down?

                  Comment

                  • Doctor_Tenma
                    Monster
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 33313
                    • 1,327
                    • 1,249
                    • 58,127

                    #19
                    Straight lead right hand and his ability to deceive Pacquiao into thinking he was closer than he actually was, by slightly leaning in and taking a step back when Pacquiao lunged. To Pacquiao's credit he managed to be extremely competitive despite Marquez knowing how to capitalize on most if not all his weaknesses.

                    Comment

                    • IceTrayDaGang
                      Banned.....
                      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 15598
                      • 2,182
                      • 703
                      • 194,686

                      #20
                      marquez has been so successful against manny because IMO, he doesnt fight pac scared like most of manny's opponents does. marquez is willing to sit in the pocket and trade with manny.

                      he's willing to take one to get one. if you look at most of manny's opponents, they're hesitant when trying to throw, etc. and they're usually on the move. marquez is not like that. marquez doesnt use his legs much but instead he uses his upper body movements to get away from pac's punches.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP