Comments Thread For: Hearn on Wilder-Ortiz: It's Embarrassing, Why Not Fight Joshua?

[pillowfists98]

let me paint you a picture because..... you obviously need it

Wilder careers, will last more than his next 3 fights

you do know that, right..... ?

DAZN
33m + 33m + 33m (Joshua) + ? + ? + ?

Wilder
20m + 20m + 20m + 70m (Joshua) + ? + ?

you wouldn't have a clue how (or why) to fill in those blanks

neither would I, admittedly..... but I am not ****** enough to think that Wilder is leaving too much money on the table..... and the upside is the potential to make much more, especially if he beats Joshua

I am also not ****** enough to ignore advice from the best management team in the game, to sign with the morons who low-balled Wilder $12m about 6 months ago LMAO

what Haymon, Espinoza, Finkel, Arum, and even Hearn himself stated..... is that Wilder's career will likely be better served by making his own path for now..... they did not mention 2x fights, they are in this for the long haul

smarten up, you guys sound childishly naive

Sign with who? Wilder was never going to sign with Hearn. Hearn does not equal DAZN. And how is Wilder going to make 70 million in one fight against Joshua? That is absurd. The fight would have to do like 2 million PPV buys for that to happen.

[pillowfists98]

How is that? Oh so he was gonna make 80 mill on his next 2 fights if he'd sign with Dazn...........

80 million combined for the 2 Joshua fights, yes.

[MisanthropicNY]

kid, you have NO IDEA whatsoever.....

NONE

you literally pulled that comment out of your (whiney) ass

if Wilder makes 20m + 20m + 70m for Joshua..... he is in the black

or 25m + 25m + 60m..... whatever

you " insisters " have no fkn clue whatsoever

Espinoza stated that Wilder is already making similar money to the DAZN deal..... and guess what, WILDER IS WELL-AWARE THAT DAZN OFFERED HIM $100m..... so, do you really think he is going to settle for much less than that?

really ?

come on man

Wilder is content with his current deal..... if you think he is leaving much money on the table you are fooling yourself..... why on earth would he do that?..... because he is scared, like a little girl?

that is fkn ret4rded

Wilder CLEARLY tried to make that fight TWICE last year..... surely you can factor that into your day-dreaming LMAO

So your argument is that Wilder will lose money and be in the red if he fights Joshua

But if Wilder fights tomato cans like Ruiz and Ortiz he'll make more money

[lion33lit]

I think I understand what Wilder is doing from a business standpoint. But as a boxing fan, there’s no defending this move. I understand that AJ is a dangerous fight for him and he wants to maximize the payday. But what exactly does an Ortiz rematch do for Wilder? I can understand a Fury rematch. But Ortiz??? Come on bruh. And to announce it during AJ’s fight week. I’m a Wilder fan. But it gives the impression that’s he ain’t trying to see AJ right now.

What the Ortiz rematch does for Wilder (& Ortiz) is to help them feed their daughters and everybody else (they most likely talked about this weeks ago).

Team-Hearn is so used to running the show with his flat fees and condescending offers that Tyson Fury, Whyte, Ortiz etc,. realized they had to generate some of that available money on their own (Bob & Warren are no fools).

Hearn is the monopoly, everyone else realizes his control over the division with his robot... Wilder previously wanted very badly to square off with him, Hearn was complacent, dismissive - ready to go the route of "risk free" fights if Wilder refused. Arrogance can only get you so far. Hearn is in the situation he's in because he felt he couldnt be touched!

Hearn is the one "embarrassed" and squeeming right now, because he was under the impression heavyweight boxing couldnt endure without his beloved robot involved.... And why not announce it during AJs fight week? The fans know how AJs new little opponent entered the convo. Remember, Fury didnt want the rematch...Wilder tried...the boxing world knows that..

[andocom]

let me paint you a picture because..... you obviously need it

Wilder careers, will last more than his next 3 fights

you do know that, right..... ?

DAZN
33m + 33m + 33m (Joshua) + ? + ? + ?

Wilder
20m + 20m + 20m + 70m (Joshua) + ? + ?

you wouldn't have a clue how (or why) to fill in those blanks

neither would I, admittedly..... but I am not ****** enough to think that Wilder is leaving too much money on the table..... and the upside is the potential to make much more, especially if he beats Joshua

I am also not ****** enough to ignore advice from the best management team in the game, to sign with the morons who low-balled Wilder $12m about 6 months ago LMAO

what Haymon, Espinoza, Finkel, Arum, and even Hearn himself stated..... is that Wilder's career will likely be better served by making his own path for now..... they did not mention 2x fights, they are in this for the long haul

smarten up, you guys sound childishly naive

Again you say Wilder was low balled, ignoring the fact he actually accepted the offer, he said it himself?

From what I recall the dazn offer was $20M for breazeale, where as he only made $10M on Showtime, is this not correct?

So a more acturate timeline would be:

dazn
$20M(breazeale) + $40M(Joshua) + $40M(Joshua) = with wins undisputed HW champ

Wilder
$10M(breazeale) + ?(Ortiz) + ?() = unless third fight is with Joshua hes basically same place he is now

I haven't heard Hearn say Wilder would make more managing himself, where is that? As for Haymon, Espinoza, Finkel, Arum saying that, what exactly do you think they would say about a rival promoter/broadcaster?

Again, I'm not from the UK or US, I don't have a dog in the fight, I just want to see the best fight each other. You seem to be pretty worked up over this.

[TreJac]

Hearn needs to stop pretending that he would want this fight to happen without making an arrangement to have some financial control over wilder beyond that fight. At the end of the day, I'd prefer to see wilder vs Joshua but to say fighting Ortiz is an embarrassment when Ortiz is a higher rated heavyweight than anyone Joshua has fought (or in the case of miller, planned to face) in the past 2 yrs. Wilder's best 2 opponents are still better than Joshua's best 2 opponents. So the supposed fear of Joshua that Hearn is trying to portray is a joke.

Wilder's two best opponents are his only two! Why do you Hearn/AJ haters seem ok with the fight not happening? Even when the proof is right in front of you, the haters still insist everything is Hearn/AJ fought!

[puroylan]

Let's just hope the Ortiz doesn't ruin the big money fight between Wilder & Joshua. I'm pretty sure you guys still remember what happened to Gamboa & Lopez.

[MC Hammer]

Wilder fans: AJ tries to fight Whyte "That's a terrible fight. Why would he do that? He already KOed him"

(Wilder signs to fight Ortiz) "Great fight. This proves he fights the best. I give Wilder props for this dangerous opponent"

There is no winning with people who are brain dead. Next will be Kownacki (if he beats Arreola, otherwise it's Wilder Areolla II). And Wilder fans will make Kownacki seem like he is the best thing since a young Mike Tyson hahahahah.

None did that the Whyte fight was bad because Wilder fans and US fans in general don't care what AJ does. He is irrelevant here

[Pigeons]

Usyk needs at least 5 fights at heavyweight before jumping in with Joshua. No interest at all in seeing him get one heavyweight tune-up under his belt and going straight to Joshua.

[landotter]

A Wilder/Ortiz match is fine. If it lives up to the last one than it just might be the best HW fight of the year.

I am thinking I am done with the war of words between these camps. If in 365 days from now Wilder/Joshua happens we all win. If not, we all lose, especially their pocketbooks. But until it is signed, I think they all are at fault.