It's very possible Wilder-Ortiz II ends up being.....

[Mammoth]

Pulev >>>>> Ortiz

Nobody ever dared to get this ****** before

[Robbie Barrett]

Nobody ever dared to get this ****** before

Who has the better resume? Pulev is the better fighter, he's more proven.

[BigZ44]

Still think there's about a 50/50 chance, if not more, we never get AJ/Wilder. Could see Wilder avoiding that fight his whole career, but think there's an even better chance one of them loses before they meet, especially Wilder. Old ass Ortiz still might beat him this time around

[Mammoth]

Who has the better resume? Pulev is the better fighter, he's more proven.

You think resume is greater than skill?

[Mammoth]

Still think there's about a 50/50 chance, if not more, we never get AJ/Wilder. Could see Wilder avoiding that fight his whole career, but think there's an even better chance one of them loses before they meet, especially Wilder. Old ass Ortiz still might beat him this time around

People want to get as much money as possible out of their fighters before they take the big gamble. There's just way too much money in Joshua vs Wilder to not happen.

Ortiz could potentially knock Wilder out but I think time is catching up with King Kong.

[Curt Henning]

Still think there's about a 50/50 chance, if not more, we never get AJ/Wilder. Could see Wilder avoiding that fight his whole career, but think there's an even better chance one of them loses before they meet, especially Wilder. Old ass Ortiz still might beat him this time around

that will be the only thing that kills the fight...someone losing....thats it...

youre crazy if you think these guys wont meet otherwise...theres too much money not to

you really think wilder would rather fight kownacki for 8 million bucks and keep his 0 over taking a challenge and walking away with 50-65 million? cmon man...lol....youre letting your hate blind you...nobody is turning down that kind of money ....especially to fight a guy that had to get off the mat to beat wlad and took many rounds to beat breazeale(im not even knocking AJ here...just saying...hes not exactly putting the fear of god into someone like wilder)

[BigZ44]

People want to get as much money as possible out of their fighters before they take the big gamble. There's just way too much money in Joshua vs Wilder to not happen.

Ortiz could potentially knock Wilder out but I think time is catching up with King Kong.

Probably, but Wilder is in danger in just about every fight he's in, anything could happen. Then what if Wilder fights Fury next? Fury could dominate him and actually get a win this time, maybe win a trilogy as well. If that happens do we ever get Wilder/AJ? Probably not, AJ/Fury would then be the most lucrative HW fight of all time. UK would go ****ing mad over that

[BigZ44]

that will be the only thing that kills the fight...someone losing....thats it...

youre crazy if you think these guys wont meet otherwise...theres too much money not to

you really think wilder would rather fight kownacki for 8 million bucks and keep his 0 over taking a challenge and walking away with 50-65 million? cmon man...lol....youre letting your hate blind you...nobody is turning down that kind of money ....especially to fight a guy that had to get off the mat to beat wlad and took many rounds to beat breazeale(im not even knocking AJ here...just saying...hes not exactly putting the fear of god into someone like wilder)

No, I think Wilder probably wants it, but I don't trust Finkel and some of those other cronies making the calls to risk it unless they absolutely have to and I think they are brainwashing Deontay.

[Curt Henning]

No, I think Wilder probably wants it, but I don't trust Finkel and some of those other cronies making the calls to risk it unless they absolutely have to and I think they are brainwashing Deontay.

bro....finkel doesnt get paid unless wilder does....those other "cronies" have done some of boxing biggest fights......what u just said is crazy talk.....

yes i dont think those guys want to fight on DAZN...because they feel like theyd be leaving money on the table in doing that....but those guys arent going to tell a guy to shy away from a 50-60 million purse

the problem is not once has team hearn said they are willing to do what is right...and do a US ppv....which makes the most money for both guys....because hearn needs to deliver to DAZN to keep his good relationship with them...they buy his other fights and keep money flowing through hearns pockets

[Mammoth]

Probably, but Wilder is in danger in just about every fight he's in, anything could happen. Then what if Wilder fights Fury next? Fury could dominate him and actually get a win this time, maybe win a trilogy as well. If that happens do we ever get Wilder/AJ? Probably not, AJ/Fury would then be the most lucrative HW fight of all time. UK would go ****ing mad over that

Then we get Joshua vs a guy who has proven himself as being better than Wilder. I just hope they realize they need to line up good fights for Joshua to keep him relevant.