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  • Sid-Knee
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    #71
    Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
    Salido beat him. Period

    Berchelt is not on the top-6 of mexican fighters

    1-canelo
    2-estrada
    3-Mikey
    4-Nery
    5-navarrete
    6-Leo
    I thought those that weigh in heavy are disgusting cheats according to you?

    Your bias and hypocrisy knows no bounds.

    Salido is a weight and drug cheat. These are facts. He fouled none stop against Loma. This is also a fact. He ducked a big money rematch like Marquez did with Manny and ran for the hills like a puzzy. This is also a fact.

    Leo and Mikey are Americans. Not Mexican. Actually, to be perfectly honest with you, they're really Spanish. They have Spanish European blood running through their veins. That's also a fact. Real Mexicans are dark skinned and ugly who can't fight for shlt. All the famous Mexicans are of Spanish descent. Look it up and see for yourself.

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    • RisAri0
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      #72
      Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
      LMAO

      Roy has Ws over Hopkins, Toney and the trip all the way up to HW winning a paper title in his lone appearance. There is NOTHING Lomafako can ever do to match or even come close to what Roy did.

      Roy Jones jr's and Lomafako's names do not belong in the same sentence...
      Not comparing careers here, but ok. Lomas still has ways to go I agree, still early. Talent wise he's 2nd to Roy, the way he has his way with his opponents, showboating, reflexes. Lomas is like a young Kobe is to Roy being Jordan.

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #73
        Well rounded fighter, no weak area's but? Is he exceptional great in any area? He is a complete fighter, but what I am stating is that he is not massively great in any area. Neither was Floyd Mayweather, these where just fighters with no real weakness, and they where better than good in every department.

        I disagreed with the statement from Adam Booth, that he was the most technically gifted fighter he has ever seen 'Abit confused in the moment he was'.

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        • Mooshashi
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          #74
          He looked at Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris cried.

          He's very, very good technically and physically. Would like to see him on a couple do or die wars with guys a little bigger than he is.

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          • Sid-Knee
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            #75
            Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
            Exactly WHO has Lomafako beaten?
            In his short career he's beaten Linares, Martinez, Crolla, Pedraza, Walters, Rigo, Sosa and Russell.

            If you don't think that's impressive in only 14 fights then you need your head testing. Mikey and Davis could get it too if they find their balls and stop running. Berchelt too. Loma is ready when they are.

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            • BoxingIsGreat
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              #76
              Originally posted by satiev1
              Let me put it this way. No one in the history of the sport has ever won 3 titles in the amount of fights he's fought with the level of competition he's faced.
              That's good and not so good when evaluating records.

              You won't impress me any if you come to the pros almost at the champion level, instead of a kid who builds their pro records from not much.

              Loma debuted at 25 and ready to be a champion from his amateur and Olympic experience. He had a lot of advantages but, in reality, couldn't beat an overweight journeyman with 12 losses in Salido. We need some reality in this life.

              His pro resume is still poor, IMO.
              Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 05-30-2019, 09:58 PM.

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              • BoxingIsGreat
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                #77
                Loma's pro record would be maybe 50 fights, we already know about 1 loss, maybe more losses, if he had pro debuted at age 18 or something, like most kids. Talking about records is tricky.

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                • UNBIASED BOXING
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                  #78
                  Wouldn't be surprised if he becomes an ATG. Also wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't (professional boxing). It's not easy, especially given he's 31. He's already a HOF'er, though.

                  He'll need his reflexes/physical strengths to stay intact and for boxing/promoting bull**** to disappear within the next two years.

                  Don't think he can move up to 140. Guys in that weight class often weigh above 152 on fight night. The biggest ones, around 155ish. It's like, Mikey vs Spence. Rigo vs Lomachenko. Brook vs Golovkin.


                  Hopefully we can get Commey, Berchelt, and especially Mikey after the Campbell fight (maybe I'm wrong in making the assumption that one is next). That would be amazing, and I would be cool with him retiring after that, given that it would probably take like 2-years to get all of those fights put together. He'd be an ATG after that, although of course, not ranked as high as recent fighters such as Mayweather or Pacquiao.
                  Last edited by UNBIASED BOXING; 05-30-2019, 10:47 PM.

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                  • chrisJS
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                    #79
                    He’s fantastic. He has all-time great skill and talent. It’s obvious to see and it’s hilarious watching people fume at this fact.

                    He’s not an all-time great fighter yet. The only active fighter that is, is Pacquaio. The fewest to win first, second and third titles is impressive as is the dominance and the undisputed thing will elevate him further. He’s on the way to being an all-time great but it’s going to be a lot based on style, performances and dominance than opposition because there are no other great fighters out there.

                    I haven’t heard a peep from Teofimio since Loma released that video. Isn’t that funny? He was everywhere mouthing off everyday until that and I think a lot of people have forgotten he exists now. Unfortunately it could be hard getting the high profile guys in the ring. We know Davis is scared, let’s see if Berchelt is down. He seems very quiet on fighting Loma.

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                    • satiev1
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                      That's good and not so good when evaluating records.

                      You won't impress me any if you come to the pros almost at the champion level, instead of a kid who builds their pro records from not much.

                      Loma debuted at 25 and ready to be a champion from his amateur and Olympic experience. He had a lot of advantages but, in reality, couldn't beat an overweight journeyman with 12 losses in Salido. We need some reality in this life.

                      His pro resume is still poor, IMO.
                      Yah his opposition has been garbage. Rigo, linares, russell, walters are all terrible fighters.

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