Comments Thread For: Hearn: Wilder Won't Be at MSG Because He Doesn't Want Joshua

[Califire209]

Other kings died trying.....this local king is no different.

The only Ex-King AJ beat was a shopworn 2yr inactive Wlad, Tyson Fury's leftovers. When Wilder's straight right lands on Joshua, it will be lights out

[Laligalaliga]

We not only have a heavyweight champ but we have "real" sports. MLB and the NFL.

That's non of my concern....your champ can have over 10mil views, when its fight night, these 10mil views will be no where to be found prompting free tickets to fire fighters and homeless goonse.
That's the kind of champ you have, paper

[Laligalaliga]

The only Ex-King AJ beat was a shopworn 2yr inactive Wlad, Tyson Fury's leftovers. When Wilder's straight right lands on Joshua, it will be lights out

Still, that's not a concern to me. Whether the right hands land or not, a paper champ is a paper champ.

Wlad was in two different camp training for fury's rematch that fury wasn't man enough to engage. The young lion was there to defend the British fans despite his short experience in pro fights.

Your paper champ at fight 33 was declared a baby not ready for the work..
All these are facts.
Go drink some beer, you are tired.

[Fabes88]

Did you read the actual offer? Of course not. Your going by the spin that was put on it. Hearn wanted to control Wilder knowing that A.J is a vulnerable stiff. Wilder wasn't having it!

The offer was Breazeale, aj and then a rematch. What am I missing here what’s so terrible about that

[BangEM]

You’re clairvoyant abilities aside. Fury beat Wladimir for the title, making him the champ. The black kid beat a forty year old coming off a year and a half lay-off. And struggled a helluva lot more than Fury did. There’s no other way of rationally looking at the respective outcomes. Hence s.hitting on your king of the division claims.

Ability to sell tickets has nothing to do with being the best. Which is how Oscar became the cash cow of his era, while never being the best fight. And losing a good number of his biggest fights.

Stop comparing apples to oranges. Fury just managed to outpoint an uninspired Wladmir in the most boring fight in history where he ran for 12 rds. The total punches landed in the fight wasn't even up to 30. And he ran from the rematch and that's basically why Wladmir was inactive for almost a year but he was in training camp.

Josh went toe to toe with a a highly motivated Wladmir in the best heavyweight bout in a decade and sent him into retirement. That's the difference.

When you also compare their resumes, it's not even close. The biggest name on Fury's resume, apart from Wladmir and Wilder, is Chisora twice (he lost to McDermott in the first fight). He's not the king of the division. He doesn't even have any belts. What type of king wears no crown, lol?

[hitking]

Stop comparing apples to oranges. Fury just managed to outpoint an uninspired Wladmir in the most boring fight in history where he ran for 12 rds. The total punches landed in the fight wasn't even up to 30. And he ran from the rematch and that's basically why Wladmir was inactive for almost a year but he was in training camp.

Josh went toe to toe with a a highly motivated Wladmir in the best heavyweight bout in a decade and sent him into retirement. That's the difference.

When you also compare their resumes, it's not even close. The biggest name on Fury's resume, apart from Wladmir and Wilder, is Chisora twice (he lost to McDermott in the first fight). He's not the king of the division. He doesn't even have any belts. What type of king wears no crown, lol?

If you give AJ more credit for beating Wladimir than you give Fury, you’re ******. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

As for belts, IDGAF about belts. IMO both of the current trinket holders at heavyweight are paper champions. AJ is holding belts that Fury was stripped of due to inactivity because of things not boxing related. Not AJ’s fault. But Fury is back active and until someone beats him. He has as good a claim as anyone to the legitimate heavyweight title. Wilder is holding a belt vacated by Wladimir’s big brother. Personally, while they were both active, I considered Vitali the real heavyweight champion over his little bro and the rest of the division. But when he retired, Wladimir clearly took over the division. Personally, I think Wilder, Fury, or AJ needs to beat the other two to be considered the “king of the heavyweights.” But that’s coming from a completely non-fanboy POV.

[hitking]

The white kid also is a drug addicted cheater. The white kid win against Klitschko should be vacated. The white kid is also the most boring soft punching heavyweight in the history of boxing. The white kid is now fighting a 56th ranked Heavyweight in the world. The white kid went the distance with the 65th ranked boxer Pianeta.

This is too ****** to warrant a real response.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

This is too ****** to warrant a real response.

******= FACTS

You called AJ the black kid so what’s the problem? You can not find one lie in my post.

[BangEM]

If you give AJ more credit for beating Wladimir than you give Fury, you’re ******. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

As for belts, IDGAF about belts. IMO both of the current trinket holders at heavyweight are paper champions. AJ is holding belts that Fury was stripped of due to inactivity because of things not boxing related. Not AJ’s fault. But Fury is back active and until someone beats him. He has as good a claim as anyone to the legitimate heavyweight title. Wilder is holding a belt vacated by Wladimir’s big brother. Personally, while they were both active, I considered Vitali the real heavyweight champion over his little bro and the rest of the division. But when he retired, Wladimir clearly took over the division. Personally, I think Wilder, Fury, or AJ needs to beat the other two to be considered the “king of the heavyweights.” But that’s coming from a completely non-fanboy POV.

You're entitled to your opinion. And perhaps your submission is because you're American and you don't understand how kingship/empire works. You need a crown to be considered a king and Fury has no crown. Also, to be at the top, you have to expand your kingdom, which Josh has done by unifying twice.

Josh - King
Wilder - Prince
Fury - Duke

[hitking]

You're entitled to your opinion. And perhaps your submission is because you're American and you don't understand how kingship/empire works. You need a crown to be considered a king and Fury has no crown. Also, to be at the top, you have to expand your kingdom, which Josh has done by unifying twice.

Josh - King
Wilder - Prince
Fury - Duke

Fury beat the king. Based on your logic, there’s no need to keep score. They should just fight and allow the fangirls to decide which c.ock they like best to determine who’s the best.