P4P idiots of NSB?

[ShoulderRoll]

Is that supposed to be an insult? Yes I have taken a lot of PEDs in my life mate, I was a bodybuilder in the 1980’s. It was a requirement for our sport.

And I’m not sensitive about PEDs at all actually. In fact, I encourage them under the right guidance. (Unless it’s banned of course)

What I don’t like is idiots like you talking about PEDs when you have not even the first clue about them, which you don’t. You have this fake PED crusade going (except for fighters you like who you give passes to) whilst being too lazy to do even the slightest bit of research. Talk some of the most misinformed, ignorant nonsense I’ve read in my entire life and say it with your chest like you know something. It is beyond embarrassing.

So as someone who is a legitimate expert in this field, when I see morons like you talking your nonsense is my duty to spank you behind like I’m your Father.

How many times did you use illegal substances, Dan? And how many times did you encourage others to similarly do something illegal?

[IronDanHamza]

How many times did you use illegal substances, Dan? And how many times did you encourage others to similarly do something illegal?

PED use is not illegal in pro body building but I couldn’t answer that question as it’s been too many but I have taken every PED that’s on the market myself and currently run a cruise amount on TRT.

What is it you’re trying to do here? Are PEDs an icky word to you?

[ShoulderRoll]

PED use is not illegal in pro body building but I couldn’t answer that question as it’s been too many but I have taken every PED that’s on the market myself and currently run a cruise amount on TRT.

What is it you’re trying to do here? Are PEDs an icky word to you?

Steroid use is certainly illegal in pro bodybuilding, at least here in America.

But you know, a lot about your character actually makes sense now. It doesn’t surprise me in the least that you couldn’t compete cleanly within the rules. And when you couldn’t you had no problem seeking to gain an illegal advantage outside the rules.

That’s why it bothers you that I get on a high horse about PEDs in boxing. Or when I say that illegal PED use should disqualify someone from ATG consideration. It’s crystal clear now.

No regret or apologies from me though. Boxing should always have a different ethic when it comes to this sort of thing than bodybuilding does.

[IronDanHamza]

Steroid use is certainly illegal in pro bodybuilding, at least here in America.

But you know, a lot about your character actually makes sense now. It doesn’t surprise me in the least that you couldn’t compete cleanly within the rules. And when you couldn’t you had no problem seeking to gain an illegal advantage outside the rules.

That’s why it bothers you that I get on a high horse about PEDs in boxing. But boxing should always have a different ethic when it comes to this sort of thing than bodybuilding does.

Erm, no, it’s really not PED use is not illegal in pro body building, in any country. Definitely not in America.

They are illegal in Natural Bodybuilding. But most natural body builders also use PEDs and know how to work around the test, if they even test them.

I’ve told you what bothers me about you, you have a fake PED crusade going when you don’t have the first clue about PEDs. You talk down on some fighters, accuse other fighters of being on PEDs with no evidence and then give fighters you like who are known drug cheats passes and go as far to deem them “likely clean” like you do Canelo. I’ve never understood why people like to talk on things they aren’t informed on, it only leads to you looking ******.

And also PEDs are banned in Boxing, and rightfully so. So no that certainly wouldn’t bother me, what bothers me is your ignorance on the topic.

[ShoulderRoll]

Erm, no, it’s really not PED use is not illegal in pro body building, in any country. Definitely not in America.

They are illegal in Natural Bodybuilding. But most natural body builders also use PEDs and know how to work around the test, if they even test them.

I’ve told you what bothers me about you, you have a fake PED crusade going when you don’t have the first clue about PEDs. You talk down on some fighters, accuse other fighters of being on PEDs with no evidence and then give fighters you like who are known drug cheats passes and go as far to deem them “likely clean” like you do Canelo. I’ve never understood why people like to talk on things they aren’t informed on, it only leads to you looking ******.

And also PEDs are banned in Boxing, and rightfully so. So no that certainly wouldn’t bother me, what bothers me is your ignorance on the topic.

Steroid use is certainly illegal in the US. Not just in bodybuilding but to use at all, period. Unless you have a prescription from a doctor.

Canelo never tested positive for steroids. And all I have ever said about him is that his excuse for having trace amounts of clenbuterol in his system was believable. It doesn’t require you to completely suspend disbelief to say it’s realistic that he could have eaten something contaminated at a steak house in Mexico. Unlike Conor Benn eating tainted egggs in Britain where clomiphene is NOT allowed for use in producing eggs.

[_Maxi]

You can't deny this was a good thread XD.

[IronDanHamza]

Steroid use is certainly illegal in the US. Not just in bodybuilding but to use at all, period. Unless you have a prescription from a doctor.

Canelo never tested positive for steroids. And all I have ever said about him is that his excuse for having trace amounts of clenbuterol in his system was believable. It doesn’t require you to completely suspend disbelief to say it’s realistic that he could have eaten something contaminated at a steak house in Mexico. Unlike Conor Benn eating tainted egggs in Britain where clomiphene is NOT allowed for use in producing eggs.

Right, but PEDs are not banned though in pro bodybuilding, that’s the point. It’s not illegal to use them in that sport.

Canelo tested positive for a PED and a very well known one.

You have given him a pass, accepted his excuses for that despite the fact there is zero evidence that any of his excuses are true, and you have then gone one further and deemed him “likely clean” because he has passed some VADA tests.

On the same hand you then accuse other fighters of being assuredly being on PEDs with NO EVIDENCE what so ever to say so.

It’s beyond pathetic, and well beyond ******.

[SteveM]

You can't deny this was a good thread XD.

it has

[QueensburyRules]

Right, but PEDs are not banned though in pro bodybuilding, that’s the point. It’s not illegal to use them in that sport.

Canelo tested positive for a PED and a very well known one.

You have given him a pass, accepted his excuses for that despite the fact there is zero evidence that any of his excuses are true, and you have then gone one further and deemed him “likely clean” because he has passed some VADA tests.

On the same hand you then accuse other fighters of being assuredly being on PEDs with NO EVIDENCE what so ever to say so.

It’s beyond pathetic, and well beyond ******.

- - Canelo tested below the VADA FAIL threshold as measured in Nanograms of legal local fattening agents used in the Beef industry.

Shellfish around the world routinely test in nanograms for Viagra, *******, Sedatives, ect sorta like you testing positive for Nanograms of IQ.

[IronDanHamza]

- - Canelo tested below the VADA FAIL threshold as measured in Nanograms of legal local fattening agents used in the Beef industry.

Shellfish around the world routinely test in nanograms for Viagra, *******, Sedatives, ect sorta like you testing positive for Nanograms of IQ.

Canelo failed a drug test for Clenbuterol mate, I seriously cannot make that any clearer or easier for you to understand. He received a ban for it.

He had Clenbuterol in his system, and it was above the threshold for VADA's testing procedure at the time. That is a fact.