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  • Zelda
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    #11
    Originally posted by The D3vil
    Why do you have Tyson & Evander above Lennox who beat both of them?
    You did not read the post, just the list.

    Originally posted by Zelda

    The list is not necessarily in order.

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      #12
      Originally posted by abracada

      Bigger Q is, can AJ, Wilder, Fury hang with Muhammad Ali?
      That I can answer easily...NO!

      Unless hanging means competing and loosing. Ali would make a Foreman out of AJ and a Liston out of Wilder. Fury will end up, at best, like Jimmy Young.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Zelda
        That I can answer easily...NO!

        Unless hanging means competing and loosing. Ali would make a Foreman out of AJ and a Liston out of Wilder. Fury will end up, at best, like Jimmy Young.
        Means a competitive fight.

        If wilder and AJ land a few haymakers flush on Ali’s chin, what would happen?

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          #14
          Originally posted by abracada
          Means a competitive fight.

          If wilder and AJ land a few haymakers flush on Ali’s chin, what would happen?
          Ali has been knocked down in his career. But he got up quicker than he went down. Never, ever did he struggle against tough, hard-hitting boxers. Nor did he got up on wobbly legs.

          Frazier landed a few times, Foreman hit him repeatedly, Shavers rocked him, Norton got his shots through, Lyle's punches were hard...but none did enough damage to trouble him.

          Even when Ali was way past his prime, came out of retirement, wasn't even in great shape or training hard, and fought young heavyweights (Holmes and Spinks), they won on points and not by KO. And

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            #15
            Wilder wouldn't ever hold a world title with the top echelon guys of the 90's around along with current day guys. AJ and Fury would compete well, I think AJ would fair better.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Zelda
              Ali has been knocked down in his career. But he got up quicker than he went down. Never, ever did he struggle against tough, hard-hitting boxers. Nor did he got up on wobbly legs.

              Frazier landed a few times, Foreman hit him repeatedly, Shavers rocked him, Norton got his shots through, Lyle's punches were hard...but none did enough damage to trouble him.

              Even when Ali was way past his prime, came out of retirement, wasn't even in great shape or training hard, and fought young heavyweights (Holmes and Spinks), they won on points and not by KO. And
              Cooper landed on Ali so hard that Ali needed smelling salts to be woke up. I don't think Ali would wake up from a Wilder shot, but then again I doubt a Wilder haymaker would ever be allowed to touch a prime Ali chin.

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                #17
                they'd be champs alongside Holyfield and Lewis imo. like this time around, there's no one dominant champ in the 90s and I don't think that would change if they were added to the mix.

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                • Zelda
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Red Skull
                  Cooper landed on Ali so hard that Ali needed smelling salts to be woke up. I don't think Ali would wake up from a Wilder shot, but then again I doubt a Wilder haymaker would ever be allowed to touch a prime Ali chin.
                  So Fury has a better chin than a prime Ali?

                  Ali got straight up from the Cooper KD and was NOT on wobbly legs. Yes, he was furious/puzzled when he stood up during the round breaks....but not dizzy, wobbly, or weak.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Zelda
                    So Fury has a better chin than a prime Ali?

                    Ali got straight up from the Cooper KD and was NOT on wobbly legs. Yes, he was furious/puzzled when he stood up during the round breaks....but not dizzy, wobbly, or weak.
                    Well, Fury is a much bigger man. I don't doubt that Ali has a great chin, but If Cooper can do this



                    Then I think its fair for me to have doubts whether Ali could survive one of this massive wind milling hayemakers from Beyonce Wilder.

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                      #20
                      If you count Danny Williams in the equation, then both the 90s and today's heavyweights have no chance.

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