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Which fight was Luis Ortiz coming out party?

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  • #11
    Jennings like Shane Mosley jr said. Jennings was respected at the time and wlad had put pulev down four times and wrecked him not long before jennings took him 12 and made him work. People were questioning if wlad was sliding after that fight I remember it clearly. Due to Jennings competetive nature. In retrospect it may have been true. But even recently Oscar Rivas an Olympian and decent fighter took a long time to get rid of this modern version if Jennings so the Ortiz victory is still respectable. And it was yeah the devastating nature in which Jennings got stopped. Fury admitted Ortiz is the boogey man, No one took a fight against him. Whyte has even rejected an eliminator to fight him. Many upon many thought he had wilders number. Let's not try discredit things in retrospect. Ortiz is undoubtedly a top 10 hw and arguably top 5. Which makes him a very good win on wilders record whether haters like it or not. I'm in the fury camp if I had to pick out of the big three but I give credit when and where due to all of them why can't that be the norm. I'm only disparaging about any of them when arguing with an overly zealous supporter of one and detractor of another, I will play devils advocate in the defence of either of the big 3. I am 27 the klitschko era was my dominant era and I enjoyed a lot of 90s boxing even as a kid. Naz was my first boxing love though a vhs of his greatest hits and highlights..And the tail end of Tyson...but my point is let's just enjoy this heavyweight era it is so much more lively than when wlad and klitschko were dominating things with defences against the likes of sosnowski or whatever that polish bum was called and John marc mormeck. The prospects the champions the narrative of current times is enjoyable. Let's put aside the rhetoric and vitriol and enjoy our mutual love of this great sport.

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    • #12
      I would say the Dave Allen fight.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
        marco huck fight was povetkins coming out party...when he got mashed by a cruiser and was holding on to hucks waist to stop from falling face first to the canvas
        i think this thread was about Luis Ortiz fam. I don’t see anything about povetkin

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        • #14
          Originally posted by DaNeutral. View Post
          Which was the performance that made you go "WOW, here we go, Ortiz is legit". Each top fighter has one, people may disagree which fight that actually was. Lewis had Ruddock for me, that fight nailed it Lewis was legit. Joshua had Klitchko, as did Fury. Wilder had Ortiz himself although i wish Ortiz had been in fighting condition rather than a medically worrying one.

          With Ortiz its tough theres so many good names. Dave Allen was a great win. Monte Barrett? Solid fighter. Hell you could consider Wilder, he lost but Wilder got dodgy recovery time and at one point was a whisker away from getting stopped by Ortiz. But no you cant call a loss his coming out party.

          Id have to go with Bryant Jennings. Im sure we will all agree that Jennings is one of the best of this generation, well he took Wlad 12.

          Obviously Jennings, It the TV coverage that helps them get notice.

          Shame that happened when he was already in decline.

          Lennox was always tipped for big thing, Olympic Gold Medalist.

          I always thought he would be world champ and beat the likes of Tyson, Bowe and Holyfield.

          I remember him beating Gary Mason thinking this. But his wow fight was Ruddock because of the tough fights he gave Tyson and Lewis demolished him with ease.


          With GGG was his fight with Proska.


          But then you get fighters like Pacquiao who have several wow moments. Ledwaba, Barrera, De La Hoya, Hatton and then Cotto

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          • #15
            Ortiz is a legit top5 HW. He had Wilder on ***** street. Wilder's power saved him.

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            • #16
              Not really a coming out party, but I took note after the Lateef Kayode fight.

              Don't get me wrong Kayode ended up just being a bruiser who didn't have a lot of skills - but he somehow went 12 with Tarver (an ancient on PEDs Tarver in an awful fight, I know)

              but for me it was still pretty satisfying to see how Ortiz handled him in the 1st round and cleaned that up. Clearly there was something there to continue to watch out for

              Other than that, it probably wasn't until the middle of the Wilder fight

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              • #17
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                With GGG was his fight with Proska.


                The same Proksa that lost to Sergio Mora?

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                • #18
                  I'd say Malik Scott.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post


                    The same Proksa that lost to Sergio Mora?
                    No.

                    The one that lost to Kerry Hope..

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
                      Ortiz is a legit top5 HW. He had Wilder on ***** street. Wilder's power saved him.
                      Joshua
                      Fury
                      Wilder
                      Whyte
                      Povetkin

                      If you have Ortiz over any of those you don't know **** about boxing. But i know you don't anyway.

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