Which fight was Luis Ortiz coming out party?

**Curt Henning** · 05-25-2019, 11:35 AM

marco huck fight was povetkins coming out party...when he got mashed by a cruiser and was holding on to hucks waist to stop from falling face first to the canvas

**BangEM** · 05-25-2019, 11:39 AM

Ortiz is an overrated mid-level boxer. His amateur was pedestrian and he was already in his 30s when he turned pro.

**ShaneMosleySr** · 05-25-2019, 11:56 AM

Bryant Jennings. At the time, he was considered to be one of the better American heavyweights and just did decently against Klitschko and went the distance.

Ortiz destroyed Jennings and knocked him out. If I remember correctly, Jennings was even in tears it was so brutal.

But I think the reason most people are high on Ortiz is because he�s lost maybe six rounds in a 31 fight career. It�s more of an eyeball test thing because he never got a chance, outside of the wilder fight. He doesn�t have a Klitschko on his resume like two of the top three guys do.

Originally posted by DaNeutral.

Which was the performance that made you go "WOW, here we go, Ortiz is legit". Each top fighter has one, people may disagree which fight that actually was. Lewis had Ruddock for me, that fight nailed it Lewis was legit. Joshua had Klitchko, as did Fury. Wilder had Ortiz himself although i wish Ortiz had been in fighting condition rather than a medically worrying one.

With Ortiz its tough theres so many good names. Dave Allen was a great win. Monte Barrett? Solid fighter. Hell you could consider Wilder, he lost but Wilder got dodgy recovery time and at one point was a whisker away from getting stopped by Ortiz. But no you cant call a loss his coming out party.

Id have to go with Bryant Jennings. Im sure we will all agree that Jennings is one of the best of this generation, well he took Wlad 12.

**Jubei** · 05-25-2019, 12:13 PM

Some degenerate Wilder fans actually try to tell us that Ortiz was such a gifted amateur and when you actually check out his amateur record you realize he was pretty much garbage.

Ortiz lost 7 times to Odlanier Solis in the amateurs and never won a meaningful title.

In the pros he has a record of 0-1 vs former or current champions.

Also Ortiz is fat, very old, has very high blood pressure and is barely medically fit to compete.

**ShoulderRoll** · 05-25-2019, 12:19 PM

Bryant Jennings.

He had gone the distance against Klitschko in his previous fight and looked competitive . Then Luis Ortiz demolished him.

**redmish** · 05-25-2019, 12:43 PM

I'll tell you when it happens. I would have to go with Kauffman for now.

**DaNeutral.** · 05-25-2019, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by Curt Henning

marco huck fight was povetkins coming out party...when he got mashed by a cruiser and was holding on to hucks waist to stop from falling face first to the canvas

You made me check to make sure i hadnt put Povetkin in the thread title and not Ortiz. But no, just another deflective answer. And i dont know why you deflecting it wasnt the toughest question anybody is going to be asked.

**Dip_Slide** · 05-25-2019, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by BangEM

Ortiz is an overrated mid-level boxer. His amateur was pedestrian and he was already in his 3l50s when he turned pro.

Fixed it for ya

**yammy25** · 05-25-2019, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by Curt Henning

marco huck fight was povetkins coming out party...when he got mashed by a cruiser and was holding on to hucks waist to stop from falling face first to the canvas

Some more top class whataboutery from curt there.

Won't answer the question... But i'll use the powers of deflection to express my own subjective opinion.

Boring

Which fight was Luis Ortiz coming out party?