Comments Thread For: Haney: Guys Better Fight Me Now; I'll Only Get Stronger, Better

[j.razor]

What I said was
"but the fact that a lot of his fights came against guys that either weren't as athletic as him, over the hill or not as experienced."
"Beating people when they are on winning streaks has absolutely nothing to do with Floyd having advantages in reach, speed, experience or athleticism"

j.razor
"cuz they were all ready & on winning streaks when they fought Floyd."
"Floyd USUALLY didn't have the advantages"

Floyd Mayweather 5'8 72" reach.

Advantages. (Skills aside)
Sharmba Mitchell - 5'6 lost to Kostya Tszyu twice once by KO
Zab Judah - 5'6 coming off a lost to baldimor!
Oscar De La Hoya - 34 shop worn and over the hill.
Ricky Hatton - 5'6 with a 65" reach! Hype job.
Juan Manuel Márquez - 37 over the hill lightweight with a 67" reach.
Shane Mosley - 38 over the hill, slow with shorter 71" reach.
Miguel Cotto - 5'7 with 67" reach. 32 or 33 over the hill shell of himself
Canelo Álvarez - 23 with 70" reach. catch-weight fight, Inexperienced at elite level. Floyd even told him this during the face off.
Manny Pacquiao - 5'6 with 67" reach. Over the hill

Stop trying to argue with the facts ******.

You are one dumb ass trying to play ****** & nit pick like a b!tch talking about this finger nail is longer than the other....LMMFAO! I can tell you are a follower. You probably wear skinny jeans too....LMMFAO!

Zab Judah - is 5'7 1/2" & Floyd fought him AND Baldomir back to back. dumbass.

Oscar De La Hoya - 5' 10" with a 73' reach dumbass.

Ricky Hatton - 5'7" & a hypejob AFTER Floyd beats him tho right? Dumbass.

Juan Manuel Márquez - Over the hill cuz Floyd beat him right? But he K.O.'s manny when you said Manny would beat Floyd & Juan Dropped Manny AFTER he fought Floyd. Dumbass.

Shane Mosley - 5'9" Fought Floyd after he K.O.'s margarito but he's over the hill cuz Floyd beat him right? Dumbass.

Miguel Cotto - 5'8" Lost to 2 fighters cheating before Floyd, Margarito (plaster) Manny (PED's) but just cuz Floyd beat him he's over the hill right? Dumbass.

Canelo Álvarez - 5'9" with 43 fights. Too green cuz Floyd beat him right? Dumbass.

Manny Pacquiao - Floyd is older than him but just cuz Floyd beat him Manny was over the hill but Floyd wasn't right? Dumbass.

Stop trying to create your own "facts" that you actually got wrong for your own agenda, dumbass.

[Realizniguhnit]

at 1:07 he said, "Nah, seriously all bullshet aside" meaning he was bullshetting, dumbass.

You just fishing in a dry pond. I bet if Floyd was fighting Keith, Errol or Bud you wouldn't bet against Floyd. Wait, then again your dumbass probably would....LMMFAO! Man your pathetic....LMMFAO!

Out of respect for Floyd, that's not even something you BS'ing about. I'm pretty sure If Floyd heard that, be it Jr or Snr, they didn't take to kindly to it. Whether he was BS'ing or not.

Like, I'm BS'ing with you right now, in no way does that mean what I stated isn't facts or untrue.

Just goes to show you don't even know what you're talking about.

It's obvious you're the dumazz here that didn't even get the point. There weren't even guy's like Spence, Thurman or Crawford around in Floyd's era fool, That's the whole point, but in the Haney era, there is which is why it will be super difficult for him to accomplish half the thing's Floyd has.

[Realizniguhnit]

You are one dumb ass trying to play ****** & nit pick like a b!tch talking about this finger nail is longer than the other....LMMFAO! I can tell you are a follower. You probably wear skinny jeans too....LMMFAO!

Zab Judah - is 5'7 1/2" & Floyd fought him AND Baldomir back to back. dumbass.

Oscar De La Hoya - 5' 10" with a 73' reach dumbass.

Ricky Hatton - 5'7" & a hypejob AFTER Floyd beats him tho right? Dumbass.

Juan Manuel Márquez - Over the hill cuz Floyd beat him right? But he K.O.'s manny when you said Manny would beat Floyd & Juan Dropped Manny AFTER he fought Floyd. Dumbass.

Shane Mosley - 5'9" Fought Floyd after he K.O.'s margarito but he's over the hill cuz Floyd beat him right? Dumbass.

Miguel Cotto - 5'8" Lost to 2 fighters cheating before Floyd, Margarito (plaster) Manny (PED's) but just cuz Floyd beat him he's over the hill right? Dumbass.

Canelo Álvarez - 5'9" with 43 fights. Too green cuz Floyd beat him right? Dumbass.

Manny Pacquiao - Floyd is older than him but just cuz Floyd beat him Manny was over the hill but Floyd wasn't right? Dumbass.

Stop trying to create your own "facts" that you actually got wrong for your own agenda, dumbass.

j.razor
"cuz they were all ready & on winning streaks when they fought Floyd."
"Floyd USUALLY didn't have the advantages"

This has already been proving wrong. Now you're trying to save face by posting blatant BS falsehoods. I've seen Zab in person fool. That dude is not 5'7 1/2 LMAO and he wasn't coming off a winning streak when he fought Floyd.

Oscar was 34 and had been in countless wars by that point. Which is what over the hill is...

Just because Floyd is 22 month's older than Pacquiao doesn't negate the fact that he's 2 inches taller with a whole 5" inch reach advantage. The commentators even noticed how much smaller Pac looked compared to Floyd in the ring.

You go on and on with the spins.

It's like come on dude, get a grip. Your playing yourself. Floyd had advantages period. Be it height, reach fighting guy's that were over the hill or not as experienced. These are the fact's. Leaving the advantages out to make your point doesn't help you LOL FOH clown. ******.

[Realizniguhnit]

You are one dumb ass trying to play ****** & nit pick like a b!tch talking about this finger nail is longer than the other....LMMFAO! I can tell you are a follower. You probably wear skinny jeans too....LMMFAO!

Zab Judah - is 5'7 1/2" & Floyd fought him AND Baldomir back to back. dumbass.

Oscar De La Hoya - 5' 10" with a 73' reach dumbass.

Ricky Hatton - 5'7" & a hypejob AFTER Floyd beats him tho right? Dumbass.

Juan Manuel Márquez - Over the hill cuz Floyd beat him right? But he K.O.'s manny when you said Manny would beat Floyd & Juan Dropped Manny AFTER he fought Floyd. Dumbass.

Shane Mosley - 5'9" Fought Floyd after he K.O.'s margarito but he's over the hill cuz Floyd beat him right? Dumbass.

Miguel Cotto - 5'8" Lost to 2 fighters cheating before Floyd, Margarito (plaster) Manny (PED's) but just cuz Floyd beat him he's over the hill right? Dumbass.

Canelo Álvarez - 5'9" with 43 fights. Too green cuz Floyd beat him right? Dumbass.

Manny Pacquiao - Floyd is older than him but just cuz Floyd beat him Manny was over the hill but Floyd wasn't right? Dumbass.

Stop trying to create your own "facts" that you actually got wrong for your own agenda, dumbass.

BTW, don't just take it from me. There are whole articles and discussions between other people about how big a role Floyd's height and reach advantages helped him throughout his career.

from quora: quora.com/How-big-of-a-role-has-Floyd-Mayweathers-reach-played-in-his-fighting-success-Would-he-still-be-the-same-with-a-5-inch-smaller-reach

I’ve gone as far back as the Zab Judah fight to analyse Mayweather’s opponents’ heights and weights. That’s 13 fights and in those 13 fights he only fought four fighters that were taller than him – De La Hoya, Ortiz, Mosley and Alvarez at 1.79m, 1.75m, 1.75m and 1.75m respectively to Mayweather’s 1.73m. In those 13 fights he only fought one man that had a reach advantage over him in De La Hoya at 73in, while Judah had an equal span of 72in. So that’s just one man, De La Hoya, that had BOTH height and reach advantages over Mayweather. Even then De La Hoya, who was having just his second fight after over a two year spell in the wilderness, was a shadow of his former self and nothing about his performance in that fight suggested he was anywhere near the level he used to fight at.

For a fighter who relies on his ability to fight at distance and at speed a reach, and preferrably also a height, advantage is crucial. Even when Mayweather fought those other three guys who were taller than him they all had a smaller reach – 70in, 70in and 70.5in respectively.

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Mayweather's reach was invaluable throughout his career.After the Olympics when FM turned professional he had a full arsenal and used his reach on both defense and offense.His reach became very critical after he hurt the left hand almost as bad as the right. From 2005 and on he was basically a defensive fighter.Without his reach he might have lost his fight with Oscar de la Hoya.I watched the fight several times and it was very close. I gave it to FM but only by a point. It was (SD) and Oscar was past prime. He still maintains that he is undefeated,but I am quite sure that Castillo won the 1st fight as Floyd hurt his right hand in the second round and fought one handed the rest of the way. I also think Cotto would have had a much closer fight without Floyd's reach advantage.

So YES, I think FM would have never become as great as he was without the reach. If you do any reading on boxing or a fight: One of the first things that they will talk about is the reach difference between two fighters. Reach gives you distance after all and if you can hit your opponent with out being in his reach then many possibilities open up.

[j.razor]

Out of respect for Floyd, that's not even something you BS'ing about. I'm pretty sure If Floyd heard that, be it Jr or Snr, they didn't take to kindly to it. Whether he was BS'ing or not.

Like, I'm BS'ing with you right now, in no way does that mean what I stated isn't facts or untrue.

Just goes to show you don't even know what you're talking about.

It's obvious you're the dumazz here that didn't even get the point. There weren't even guy's like Spence, Thurman or Crawford around in Floyd's era fool, That's the whole point, but in the Haney era, there is which is why it will be super difficult for him to accomplish half the thing's Floyd has.

Again you trying to say Floyd didn't fight top opposition to try to discredit him, you aint slick. Name all the Spence, Thurman or Crawfords in Haney's era.

[j.razor]

j.razor
"cuz they were all ready & on winning streaks when they fought Floyd."
"Floyd USUALLY didn't have the advantages"

This has already been proving wrong. Now you're trying to save face by posting blatant BS falsehoods. I've seen Zab in person fool. That dude is not 5'7 1/2 LMAO and he wasn't coming off a winning streak when he fought Floyd.

Oscar was 34 and had been in countless wars by that point. Which is what over the hill is...

Just because Floyd is 22 month's older than Pacquiao doesn't negate the fact that he's 2 inches taller with a whole 5" inch reach advantage. The commentators even noticed how much smaller Pac looked compared to Floyd in the ring.

You go on and on with the spins.

It's like come on dude, get a grip. Your playing yourself. Floyd had advantages period. Be it height, reach fighting guy's that were over the hill or not as experienced. These are the fact's. Leaving the advantages out to make your point doesn't help you LOL FOH clown. ******.

All you doing is making excuses for T.B.E. beating everyone. You say he had reach & height advantage but when he doesn't then the fighter he's fighting is over the hill, if it aint one thing its another....LOL....Dude how many bets did you lose going against T.B.E.? ****** ass clown

[j.razor]

j.razor
"cuz they were all ready & on winning streaks when they fought Floyd."
"Floyd USUALLY didn't have the advantages"

This has already been proving wrong. Now you're trying to save face by posting blatant BS falsehoods. I've seen Zab in person fool. That dude is not 5'7 1/2 LMAO and he wasn't coming off a winning streak when he fought Floyd.

Oscar was 34 and had been in countless wars by that point. Which is what over the hill is...

Just because Floyd is 22 month's older than Pacquiao doesn't negate the fact that he's 2 inches taller with a whole 5" inch reach advantage. The commentators even noticed how much smaller Pac looked compared to Floyd in the ring.

You go on and on with the spins.

It's like come on dude, get a grip. Your playing yourself. Floyd had advantages period. Be it height, reach fighting guy's that were over the hill or not as experienced. These are the fact's. Leaving the advantages out to make your point doesn't help you LOL FOH clown. ******.

You excuse maker. T.B.E. was just too great PERIOD. FOH you dumb ass clown

[j.razor]

BTW, don't just take it from me. There are whole articles and discussions between other people about how big a role Floyd's height and reach advantages helped him throughout his career.

from quora: quora.com/How-big-of-a-role-has-Floyd-Mayweathers-reach-played-in-his-fighting-success-Would-he-still-be-the-same-with-a-5-inch-smaller-reach

I’ve gone as far back as the Zab Judah fight to analyse Mayweather’s opponents’ heights and weights. That’s 13 fights and in those 13 fights he only fought four fighters that were taller than him – De La Hoya, Ortiz, Mosley and Alvarez at 1.79m, 1.75m, 1.75m and 1.75m respectively to Mayweather’s 1.73m. In those 13 fights he only fought one man that had a reach advantage over him in De La Hoya at 73in, while Judah had an equal span of 72in. So that’s just one man, De La Hoya, that had BOTH height and reach advantages over Mayweather. Even then De La Hoya, who was having just his second fight after over a two year spell in the wilderness, was a shadow of his former self and nothing about his performance in that fight suggested he was anywhere near the level he used to fight at.

For a fighter who relies on his ability to fight at distance and at speed a reach, and preferrably also a height, advantage is crucial. Even when Mayweather fought those other three guys who were taller than him they all had a smaller reach – 70in, 70in and 70.5in respectively.

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Mayweather's reach was invaluable throughout his career.After the Olympics when FM turned professional he had a full arsenal and used his reach on both defense and offense.His reach became very critical after he hurt the left hand almost as bad as the right. From 2005 and on he was basically a defensive fighter.Without his reach he might have lost his fight with Oscar de la Hoya.I watched the fight several times and it was very close. I gave it to FM but only by a point. It was (SD) and Oscar was past prime. He still maintains that he is undefeated,but I am quite sure that Castillo won the 1st fight as Floyd hurt his right hand in the second round and fought one handed the rest of the way. I also think Cotto would have had a much closer fight without Floyd's reach advantage.

So YES, I think FM would have never become as great as he was without the reach. If you do any reading on boxing or a fight: One of the first things that they will talk about is the reach difference between two fighters. Reach gives you distance after all and if you can hit your opponent with out being in his reach then many possibilities open up.

Do you agree with every so called boxing expert that never boxed? Let me guess if fat dan rafael says l0m0 can beat T.B.E. if they fought at 135 would you believe him too?

[Realizniguhnit]

Do you agree with every so called boxing expert that never boxed? Let me guess if fat dan rafael says l0m0 can beat T.B.E. if they fought at 135 would you believe him too?

You've never boxed yourself so WTF are you talking about fool? Your just some nut hugger why don't you go ask Floyd can you suk his **** since your so blinded by your fanboyism. You're probably just some 15 year old kid that was practically a baby when Floyd was active in his prime anyway talking like you know so much about him.

Everybody know's Floyd was the best of his era, but everybody also knows he went into most fight's already having the upper hand. I've already stated that's not his fault, but it is what it is. Haney won't have that luxury in this era, which is the point.

These are simply the facts that you tried so hard to debate and came up short every time. That's why you've now reduced to bringing up irrelevant fantasy chit. Hold this L kid.