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  • #31
    Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
    That's right to a certain extent. With Haney's build he'll def be at 140 if not 147 as the years go on. So he's going to need to have some sting on those punches when he starts moving up and mixing it up with the heavier guys.

    As much as I love Floyd the talent level of the contenders when he was at the pinnacle wasn't where it is now so he benefited not only from his immense talent, but the fact that a lot of his fights came against guys that either weren't as athletic as him, over the hill or not as experienced.

    Haney won't have that luxury in this era. Guys are more mature, prime, athletic, skillful and can punch. So I view Devin not having power as a disadvantage given his size.

    And I think people get it mixed up, it's just my observation, I'm not hating, I like Devin, but he's out here talking like he's the best already when he really hasn't fought anybody of note or equal talent yet. It's like he doesn't realize he still has A LOT to prove.
    Sir......... Haney is only 20 years old.

    Not fair to judge his power at such a young age. Some fighters mature faster than others.

    Give him to about 23-24, but not 20.
    Last edited by HitmanTommy; 05-29-2019, 10:54 AM.

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    • #32
      Very True! You better catch him while he is young and inexperienced because by the time he is 24-25...Good Luck!



      I won't compare him to Floyd...BUT defensively and as far as Natural Reflexes, Muscle Twitch and that rhythm that Mayweather fought with...He Has "IT"
      Last edited by sicko; 05-29-2019, 11:08 AM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by j.razor View Post
        Floyd is T.B.E. for a reason & it aint from the lies of "guys that either weren't as athletic as him, over the hill or not as experienced," cuz they were all ready & on winning streaks when they fought Floyd. No excuses.

        As for Haney, I've been had him as the best of the new kids on the block. Its time we see Haney vs l0m0 for 2020.
        Those aren't excuses buddy they are simply the facts. Cut the fan boy chit. It doesn't have anything to do with Floyd being TBE of his era or not. It's not his fault he pretty much had advantages in almost every fight but given the opposition available to him in his time, that's what it was.

        The whole point is Haney won't have that same luxury in this era, especially not once he moves up because the talent level is much better than it was in Floyd's time, and you're talking about Loma I'm not so sure Devin could even beat Teo or Garcia.

        Don't let his win's gas you up. Devin hasn't fought no top tier talent yet nobody know's who the best out of the young crop is yet.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by HitmanTommy View Post
          Sir......... Haney is only 20 years old.

          Not fair to judge his power at such a young age. Some fighters mature faster than others.

          Give him to about 23-24, but not 20.
          Teofimo is 21. Tank was 22 KO'ing people left and right. When Floyd was 20 he was KO'ing everyone as well.

          Haney just doesn't have heavy hands period. I never bought into the whole wait until he's this age or that age. You get stronger physically as you age, punching power is something you have or you don't.

          I don't know of a boxer who developed into a bigger puncher after age 20. That's about as rare as getting taller after 20. Generally the guys that have power have always had power whether they were 16 or 22.
          Last edited by Realizniguhnit; 05-30-2019, 03:45 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
            Those aren't excuses buddy they are simply the facts. Cut the fan boy chit. It doesn't have anything to do with Floyd being TBE of his era or not. It's not his fault he pretty much had advantages in almost every fight but given the opposition available to him in his time, that's what it was.

            The whole point is Haney won't have that same luxury in this era, especially not once he moves up because the talent level is much better than it was in Floyd's time, and you're talking about Loma I'm not so sure Devin could even beat Teo or Garcia.

            Don't let his win's gas you up. Devin hasn't fought no top tier talent yet nobody know's who the best out of the young crop is yet.
            Those in FACT ARE EXCUSES cuz its NOT true. T.B.E. beat everyone when they were WINNING NOT losing. You let media FOOL YOU & you repeat what they say BUT they would NEVER bet there MONEY against T.B.E. THINK about that! Every so called "Boxing Expert" talk shet bout T.B.E. but would NEVER bet against him if their money is involved.

            As for Haney, I've BEEN saying he could beat l0m0, Teo AND ryan. You watch. Save this post for your future reference.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by j.razor View Post
              Those in FACT ARE EXCUSES cuz its NOT true. T.B.E. beat everyone when they were WINNING NOT losing. You let media FOOL YOU & you repeat what they say BUT they would NEVER bet there MONEY against T.B.E. THINK about that! Every so called "Boxing Expert" talk shet bout T.B.E. but would NEVER bet against him if their money is involved.

              As for Haney, I've BEEN saying he could beat l0m0, Teo AND ryan. You watch. Save this post for your future reference.
              Your logic is flawed. Beating people when they are on winning streaks has absolutely nothing to do with Floyd having advantages in reach, speed, experience or athleticism. You're trying to debate with the fact that there was no one like Spence, Thurman or Crawford around when Floyd was at the pinnacle and peak of his power's 2005-2012, which is ******.

              The main point is Devin, like Floyd, is going to have to move up to 140-47 at some point during his career and he won't have the same advantages Floyd had given of the talent in this generation. So for all the talent he has kinda sucks he doesn't have that equalizer to go along with it, not even at the lower weights.

              I think his dad training him will also be his downfall, during a recent interview he even insinuated that Devin whooped Floyd in sparring.

              But you do come off as too much of a Floyd fanboy, while I'm a fan of Floyd and consider him the best of his time I don't ignore blatant facts.
              Last edited by Realizniguhnit; 05-31-2019, 04:20 PM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
                Your logic is flawed. Beating people when they are on winning streaks has absolutely nothing to do with Floyd having advantages in reach, speed, experience or athleticism. You're trying to debate with the fact that there was no one like Spence, Thurman or Crawford around when Floyd was at the pinnacle and peak of his power's 2005-2012, which is ******.

                The main point is Devin, like Floyd, is going to have to move up to 140-47 at some point during his career and he won't have the same advantages Floyd had given of the talent in this generation. So for all the talent he has kinda sucks he doesn't have that equalizer to go along with it, not even at the lower weights.

                I think his dad training him will also be his downfall, during a recent interview he even insinuated that Devin whooped Floyd in sparring.

                But you do come off as too much of a Floyd fanboy, while I'm a fan of Floyd and consider him the best of his time I don't ignore blatant facts.
                Nah, your "facts" are flawed. Floyd USUALLY didn't have the advantages

                2005-2012 there was Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton (when he was undefeated), Juan Manuel Márquez, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, Canelo Álvarez & Manny Pacquiao but you talking about Spence, Thurman or Crawford? Stop it dude. You don't know how long Errol, Keith & Bud will last.

                Devin Haney has skills period. Yes Devin did fvk up in leaving Floyd Sr. (cuz of Devin's father) & it could very well be his down fall in the future but as right now he beats all the up & coming fighters like Teo, Stevenson & ryan Garcia & I'm telling you now Devin beats l0m0.

                Devin's pops also didn't "insinuated" that Devin whooped Floyd in sparring. That's how YOU are taking it & will probably create that rumor to once again try to discredit Floyd some type of way.

                "Fanboys" are really the bias mutha-fvkas that keep lying & losing. T.B.E. has made me bucks & I NEVER lost with him. He is not just the "best of his era" (cuz THAT is what YOU DUDES use to discredit him as All Time) he is The Best Ever, T.B.E.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by j.razor View Post
                  Nah, your "facts" are flawed. Floyd USUALLY didn't have the advantages

                  2005-2012 there was Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton (when he was undefeated), Juan Manuel Márquez, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, Canelo Álvarez & Manny Pacquiao but you talking about Spence, Thurman or Crawford? Stop it dude. You don't know how long Errol, Keith & Bud will last.

                  Devin Haney has skills period. Yes Devin did fvk up in leaving Floyd Sr. (cuz of Devin's father) & it could very well be his down fall in the future but as right now he beats all the up & coming fighters like Teo, Stevenson & ryan Garcia & I'm telling you now Devin beats l0m0.

                  Devin's pops also didn't "insinuated" that Devin whooped Floyd in sparring. That's how YOU are taking it & will probably create that rumor to once again try to discredit Floyd some type of way.

                  "Fanboys" are really the bias mutha-fvkas that keep lying & losing. T.B.E. has made me bucks & I NEVER lost with him. He is not just the "best of his era" (cuz THAT is what YOU DUDES use to discredit him as All Time) he is The Best Ever, T.B.E.
                  WTF are you talking about clown? Floyd literally had advantages over every single opponent you named. From Mitchell to Pacquiao whether it be height and reach, age, experience or the point in which he fought them altogether and fact is none of them were anything close to the likes of Spence, Thurman or Crawford, guy's that are just as tall and long as Floyd, while at the same time are agile and quick as him, skillful and in their prime all-in-1.

                  Your pathetic attempt to argue with facts is laughable.

                  Then you tried to say Devin's pops didn't say that? Well here's the video right here fool. The insinuating starts at 0:55


                  How about knowing WTF you're talking about before making yourself look ****** or just saying you didn't know because now everything you said can be easily discredited as just some random off the cuff fanboy BS.

                  Your last paragraph is just proof you fall into the fanboy category. Facts are irrelevant when it comes to your kind. Too caught up in the hype.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by j.razor View Post
                    Nah, your "facts" are flawed. Floyd USUALLY didn't have the advantages

                    2005-2012 there was Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton (when he was undefeated), Juan Manuel Márquez, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, Canelo Álvarez & Manny Pacquiao but you talking about Spence, Thurman or Crawford? Stop it dude. You don't know how long Errol, Keith & Bud will last.

                    Devin Haney has skills period. Yes Devin did fvk up in leaving Floyd Sr. (cuz of Devin's father) & it could very well be his down fall in the future but as right now he beats all the up & coming fighters like Teo, Stevenson & ryan Garcia & I'm telling you now Devin beats l0m0.

                    Devin's pops also didn't "insinuated" that Devin whooped Floyd in sparring. That's how YOU are taking it & will probably create that rumor to once again try to discredit Floyd some type of way.

                    "Fanboys" are really the bias mutha-fvkas that keep lying & losing. T.B.E. has made me bucks & I NEVER lost with him. He is not just the "best of his era" (cuz THAT is what YOU DUDES use to discredit him as All Time) he is The Best Ever, T.B.E.
                    What I said was
                    "but the fact that a lot of his fights came against guys that either weren't as athletic as him, over the hill or not as experienced."
                    "Beating people when they are on winning streaks has absolutely nothing to do with Floyd having advantages in reach, speed, experience or athleticism"

                    j.razor
                    "cuz they were all ready & on winning streaks when they fought Floyd."
                    "Floyd USUALLY didn't have the advantages"

                    Floyd Mayweather 5'8 72" reach.

                    Advantages. (Skills aside)
                    Sharmba Mitchell - 5'6 lost to Kostya Tszyu twice once by KO
                    Zab Judah - 5'6 coming off a lost to baldimor!
                    Oscar De La Hoya - 34 shop worn and over the hill.
                    Ricky Hatton - 5'6 with a 65" reach! Hype job.
                    Juan Manuel Márquez - 37 over the hill lightweight with a 67" reach.
                    Shane Mosley - 38 over the hill, slow with shorter 71" reach.
                    Miguel Cotto - 5'7 with 67" reach. 32 or 33 over the hill shell of himself
                    Canelo Álvarez - 23 with 70" reach. catch-weight fight, Inexperienced at elite level. Floyd even told him this during the face off.
                    Manny Pacquiao - 5'6 with 67" reach. Over the hill

                    Stop trying to argue with the facts ******.
                    Last edited by Realizniguhnit; 06-03-2019, 07:57 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
                      WTF are you talking about clown? Floyd literally had advantages over every single opponent you named. From Mitchell to Pacquiao whether it be height and reach, age, experience or the point in which he fought them altogether and fact is none of them were anything close to the likes of Spence, Thurman or Crawford, guy's that are just as tall and long as Floyd, while at the same time are agile and quick as him, skillful and in their prime all-in-1.

                      Your pathetic attempt to argue with facts is laughable.

                      Then you tried to say Devin's pops didn't say that? Well here's the video right here fool. The insinuating starts at 0:55


                      How about knowing WTF you're talking about before making yourself look ****** or just saying you didn't know because now everything you said can be easily discredited as just some random off the cuff fanboy BS.

                      Your last paragraph is just proof you fall into the fanboy category. Facts are irrelevant when it comes to your kind. Too caught up in the hype.
                      at 1:07 he said, "Nah, seriously all bullshet aside" meaning he was bullshetting, dumbass.

                      You just fishing in a dry pond. I bet if Floyd was fighting Keith, Errol or Bud you wouldn't bet against Floyd. Wait, then again your dumbass probably would....LMMFAO! Man your pathetic....LMMFAO!

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