Comments Thread For: Thurman on PEDs: Let Pacquaio Take Whatever the F*** He Wants!

[The Big Dunn]

We know and therefore you also can't be sure Mayweather was not clean prior to Mosley.


Now that is out of the way.


Which testing organization has caught more boxing cheats in the last 9 years, USADA? or VADA?

You’re trying it again. You are taking my comment about this fight and only this fight and trying to apply it to other fights from the past. Will not work.

It’s 2019. The climate is completely different now than years past. There is no acceptable excuse for not having Vada or USADA testing for this fight. Since there isn’t the fighters are suspect.

We can’t go back and apply today’s standards to past fights. All we can do is look at the current fights in the current climate and make judgements based on the standard of today.

Manny is the a side and he doesn’t have Vada or USADA testing for the fight. Can’t be certain he is clean.

[diplo]

This isn't the court of law so innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply.

Ok but guilty until proven innocent doesn't apply either, so this is a moot argument.

[D4thincarnation]

You’re trying it again. You are taking my comment about this fight and only this fight and trying to apply it to other fights from the past. Will not work.

It’s 2019. The climate is completely different now than years past. There is no acceptable excuse for not having Vada or USADA testing

So you can only not be sure in this fight?

So you just have a bias agenda in this and other fights are not held to the same standard.

Even if the standards are higher, it still doesn't explain how you can be sure that fights in the past that did not have this testing that the fighters were clean.

Can you be consistent?

[The Big Dunn]

You’re trying it again. You are taking my comment about this fight and only this fight and trying to apply it to other fights from the past. Will not work.

It’s 2019. The climate is completely different now than years past. There is no acceptable excuse for not having Vada or USADA testing for this fight. Since there isn’t the fighters are suspect.

We can’t go back and apply today’s standards to past fights. All we can do is look at the current fights in the current climate and make judgements based on the standard of today.

Manny is the a side and he doesn’t have Vada or USADA testing for the fight. Can’t be certain he is clean.

So you can only not be sure in this fight?

So you just have a bias agenda in this and other fights are not held to the same standard.

Even if the standards are higher, it still doesn't explain how you can be sure that fights in the past that did not have this testing that the fighters were clean.

Can you be consistent?

We are only talking about the Manny/Thurman fight in this thread. I don’t care to discuss other fights to derail from the thread topic. I am not comparing this fight to any other to divert from Manny being suspect since there is no Vada or USADA testing for this fight.

How is pointing out a fact about this fight bias or agenda driven? The bias or agenda comes in when a poster tries to deviate from the thread topic by bringing up other boxers and other fights.

If you weren’t biased or had an agenda you’d discuss this fight in this thread and all the other crap you deflect to in the other threads about those topics.

I am consistent. I have consistently posted about the thread topic and nothing else. Would be nice if you could do the same. You can’t because there is no way you can make manny look right or good for not having either USADA Or Vada testing for this fight.

[mathed]

Thurman gets smoked either way

[Jab jab boom]

Ok but guilty until proven innocent doesn't apply either, so this is a moot argument.

all I'm saying is that the door can't be closed to the possibility that pac has been and may currently be dirty. My original Comment stated that there is no excuse for an a side like pac not demanding testing for this fight, especially in this ped era, unless there's a chance he's using. I think there's a better than not chance that he's dirty But any implication of that hurts his fans feelings. They're an emotional bunch.

[jas]

Really su****ious someone would say this

Thurman is intelligent and doesnt care about testing?

Makes it way more likely he himself is planning to be on something

[Mr.365]

This hippy is going to get his face rocked by The Pac-Man

[diplo]

all I'm saying is that the door can't be closed to the possibility that pac has been and may currently be dirty. My original Comment stated that there is no excuse for an a side like pac not demanding testing for this fight, especially in this ped era, unless there's a chance he's using. I think there's a better than not chance that he's dirty But any implication of that hurts his fans feelings. They're an emotional bunch.

Yeah but that means that anyone who has never tested positive, could be dirty. So that's every single boxer who has ever boxed.

Lance Armstrong never ever tested positive. There is no reason to duck drugs tests if you're doping, you just carefully plan it. Unlike Jarrell Miller who ****** up his protocol because he's an idiot. Refusing a test doesn't = guilty. Because people who accept testing and always test clean, have also turned out to be dirty.

[Jab jab boom]

Yeah but that means that anyone who has never tested positive, could be dirty. So that's every single boxer who has ever boxed.

Lance Armstrong never ever tested positive. There is no reason to duck drugs tests if you're doping, you just carefully plan it. Unlike Jarrell Miller who ****** up his protocol because he's an idiot. Refusing a test doesn't = guilty. Because people who accept testing and always test clean, have also turned out to be dirty.

But, not everyone has the history of pac when it comes to su****ion over lack of testing...refusal to test close to a fight, being an A side and not requesting testing, lo power disappearing for almost 10 yrs when testing was in place but suddenly it reappears when he isn't tested.... You know all of the points that I made in my previous comment that you responded to, but comveniently only left in the part that says "this isn't the court of law". Pac has very reasonable reasons for su****ion, moreso than the average boxer.