Comments Thread For: Thurman on PEDs: Let Pacquaio Take Whatever the F*** He Wants!

[Dosumpthin]

that's my point!! holy shiiet! i thought i made that clear so many time in my post. that's why i said crack head roger said he saw that during the "vietnam" war but pac is "filipino"!!! so how is a filipino taking drugs that roger saw in the "vietnam" war!!???

again, can you show me what "a-side meth" is??? roger's crack head heard "agimat" and thought about meth instead! LOL!!!!! and like i said, "agimat" is a myth believe to protect you from danger but if manny was on it we saw in the 4th marquez fight that it didnt protect manny from anything! LMAO!!! Checkmate!!!

So Roger heard a Filipino term (agimat) during his time in Vietnam?

Are you ******?

[IceTrayDaGang]

So Roger heard a Filipino term (agimat) during his time in Vietnam?

Are you ******?

that's my point that i am trying to make!!! are you this ******!! how is a filipino taking drugs that roger saw during the vietnam war when "agimat" is what filipino soldiers believe will protect them from danger! not vietnamese! so how the fvvvck is pac taking drugs that roger saw in the vietnam war that was suppose to be a filipino myth? is this clear enough for you? holy shiiiet!!! !!!!!!

[IceTrayDaGang]

No it’s a manny thing. He didn’t have Vada testing for the matthysse fight. He also refused PED testing back in the day.

so are you saying he only stopped lucas because of lack of ped testing. say it aint so??!!

[Bluebird]

well..... that would make you pretty fkn dumb for running with that "but, he never tested positive" excuse..... because Shane never tested positive either

also, Manny refused to be tested during the suspect part of his career

that really is a " I prefer to remain an ignorant fanboy " excuse

You just made yourself look pretty fkn dumb for saying that because although Mosley didn’t test positive, he admitted publicly and under oath that he used steroids and EPO provided by BALCO founder Victor Conte and they produced a calendar seized from the BALCO lab showing Mosley used a potent ****tail of steroids and EPO right up until a few days before his victorious fight with De La Hoya on 9/13/2003. The calendar denotes which days Mosley was supposed to take which substances. That’s as good as testing positive because they had proofs that he was on PEDs. They had solid evidence, something Mayweather couldn’t produce against Pac because all he had was fantasy allegations so he didn’t have any choice but pay Pac to settle the lawsuit and as a part of the settlement, the Mayweathers had to issue a statement that says: “ The Mayweathers wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Pac has used or is using any PEDs nor are they aware of any evidence that Pac has used PEDs. Pac is a great champion and no one should construe any of our prior remarks as claiming that Pac has used PEDs.” It’s like a slap in the face, they were embarrassed and on top of that, they had to pay more than what Pac’s party was expecting to get from them.
Now, that really is an “ I prefer to remain an ignorant fan boy excuse” on your part. And just like the other poster told you, refusal to take the “Mayweather style” drug testing was more than an “ego thing” than anything else because Pac simply didn’t wan’t Mayweather to dictate on him to take the “Olympic style” drug testing which was not mandatory in professional boxing. Pac was the world’s # 1 pound for pound boxer at that time.

[Bluebird]

in my opinion, the never tested positive logic is a gullible mindset. More often than not... Where there's smoke, there's fire.

To each his own buddy, I always give anybody the benefit of the doubt until a proof comes up. I don’t want to accuse somebody and get embarrassed later on because I couldn’t backup my allegations.

[aboutfkntime]

You just made yourself look pretty fkn dumb for saying that because although Mosley didn’t test positive, he admitted publicly and under oath that he used steroids and EPO provided by BALCO founder Victor Conte and they produced a calendar seized from the BALCO lab showing Mosley used a potent ****tail of steroids and EPO right up until a few days before his victorious fight with De La Hoya on 9/13/2003. The calendar denotes which days Mosley was supposed to take which substances. That’s as good as testing positive because they had proofs that he was on PEDs. They had solid evidence, something Mayweather couldn’t produce against Pac because all he had was fantasy allegations so he didn’t have any choice but pay Pac to settle the lawsuit and as a part of the settlement, the Mayweathers had to issue a statement that says: “ The Mayweathers wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Pac has used or is using any PEDs nor are they aware of any evidence that Pac has used PEDs. Pac is a great champion and no one should construe any of our prior remarks as claiming that Pac has used PEDs.” It’s like a slap in the face, they were embarrassed and on top of that, they had to pay more than what Pac’s party was expecting to get from them.
Now, that really is an “ I prefer to remain an ignorant fan boy excuse” on your part. And just like the other poster told you, refusal to take the “Mayweather style” drug testing was more than an “ego thing” than anything else because Pac simply didn’t wan’t Mayweather to dictate on him to take the “Olympic style” drug testing which was not mandatory in professional boxing. Pac was the world’s # 1 pound for pound boxer at that time.

that is correct, Mosley did not test positive.....

so the..... " but, he never tested positive "..... excuse, is rubbish

1)
FACT: EVERY fighter who tested positive for the first time..... was found to be a dirty drug cheat, despite never previously testing positive.....

2)
FACT: two words, Lance Armstrong.....

3)
FACT: Pac refused to test during his suspect years

that excuse is rubbish

it is a... " I love Manny, and want to remain ignorant "... excuse

[Bluebird]

No they weren't just after the present time.

Mayweathers defense team requested full medical history and test results. Pacquiao team refused to release adequate information and countered by requesting USADA release Floyd's information. USADA released over 2000 pages of confidential information.


Turns out the only information needed was Pacquiao admitting he used Meth. Well he did that years later.


(BTE you seem to be the one twisting now.)

You can not deny Manny LIED about his past drug use. If he is willing to lie about that, no telling what drugs he's done throughout his career.

Just know Manny avoids testing up until this day *thread topic*

Look, you posted a link where Pac said he used drugs for years, but only during his youth, long before he became a champion. He’s from a remote place in southern Philippines, he had to leave home when he was a boy because of extreme poverty and his mother was not capable of supporting all her children by herself ( Pac’s Dad abandoned them). Pac went to Manila sleeping on cardboard boxes in the streets and that’s when he did drugs, he was a homeless boy without any parent/parents guiding him. He was lucky to be alive, if you live in the streets in Manila, you will be exposed to all kinds of bad elements. There’s no way they could find any drug involvement from his medical records because nobody would give a homeless boy a drug test or a medical record, and homeless people don’t go to a clinic or hospital, they just die in the streets. He clearly said he only used drugs in his youth, long before he became an amateur champion. The Mayweathers accused him of using PEDs only when he moved up to higher divisions and start beating De La Hoya, Hatton and Cotto and became a threat. So his drug usage as a homeless boy doesn’t count, how can a homeless boy have a medical record? Check this link out:


https://larrybrownsports.com/boxing/...g-tests/273147

It was saying that on 5/20/2012 it was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive on 3 occasions and after each positive test, USDA had found exceptional circumstances in the form of inadvertent use and gave Floyd a waiver and it negated the need for a test of Floyd’s “B” sample. And because the “B” sample was never tested, a loophole in USADA’s contract with Mayweather and GBP allowed the testing to proceed without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the NSAC which have jurisdiction over the fight.
Pac’s lawyers heard the rumor and they served document demands and subpoenas on Mayweather Promotions, GBP and USADA calling for the production of all documents that related to PED testing of Mayweather for the Mosley, Ortiz and Cotto fights. The documents were not produced, there was a delay because Mayweather was imprisoned for nine weeks and upon his release, he paid Pac to settle the lawsuit. As a part of the settlement, the Mayweathers issued a statement that says: “The Mayweathers wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Pac has used or is using any PEDs nor are they aware of any evidence that Pac has used PEDs. Pac is a great champion and no one should construe any of our prior remarks as claiming that Pac has used PEDs. If the rumor was true, that would be the primary reason why Mayweather paid Pac to settle the lawsuit, don’t you think so?

[Bluebird]

that is correct, Mosley did not test positive.....

so the..... " but, he never tested positive "..... excuse, is rubbish

1)
FACT: EVERY fighter who tested positive for the first time..... was found to be a dirty drug cheat, despite never previously testing positive.....

2)
FACT: two words, Lance Armstrong.....

3)
FACT: Pac refused to test during his suspect years

that excuse is rubbish

it is a... " I love Manny, and want to remain ignorant "... excuse

Hahahahaha! Your ignorance is unbelievable! Like I told you before, if you cannot prove it, you don’t win! What part of that don’t you understand?
1. Mosley - never tested positive but it was proven that he used PEDs ( his own admission publicly and under oath and solid proof seized from BALCO)

2. Fighter who tested positive for the first time was found to be a dirty drug cheat, despite never previously testing positive - You must be talking about Canelo?

3. Two words, Lance Armstrong .....+ BALCO = Bullseye!

4. Pac refused to test during his suspect years - “the Mayweather Olympic style test” was not mandatory, professional boxing has its own drug test- Bullseye!
Now read this links and tell me who is su****ious between the 2 boxers:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...eathers-legacy

bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/floyd-mayweather-tested-positive-3-times-for-peds.229617/

https://larrybrownsports.com/boxing/...g-tests/273147


* It is your “I hate Pac and want to remain ignorant” excuse. I just can’t help you on that, but I tried.

[aboutfkntime]

[QUOTE]

Hahahahaha! Your ignorance is unbelievable! Like I told you before, if you cannot prove it, you don’t win! What part of that don’t you understand?
1. Mosley - never tested positive but it was proven that he used PEDs ( his own admission publicly and under oath and solid proof seized from BALCO)

knowing that..... only a fkn moron would run around using the "but he never tested positive" excuse

2. Fighter who tested positive for the first time was found to be a dirty drug cheat, despite never previously testing positive - You must be talking about Canelo?

every fighter who tested positive for the first time today..... was declared innocent by you yesterday..... Mr "but he never tested positive before today".....

that is a shltty childish excuse, and you know it

3. Two words, Lance Armstrong .....+ BALCO = Bullseye!

another athlete who never tested positive today, who you would have declared innocent yesterday..... proving that your flawed "but he never tested positive" logic is ret4rded

4. Pac refused to test during his suspect years - “the Mayweather Olympic style test” was not mandatory, professional boxing has its own drug test- Bullseye!

* It is your “I hate Pac and want to remain ignorant” excuse. I just can’t help you on that, but I tried.

then why did Pac eventually agree ?

when Pac was looking fresh as a daisy after throwing 1200+ punches, he refused to test..... but when Pac looked exhausted after throwing 400-500 punches, he was happy to test no problem

wow, I wonder why LMAO

stay dumb little pac-warrior

[Curtis Harper]

'' “I’m never concerned,” Thurman said. “I’m the guy who says, ‘Let ‘em take whatever the f*** they want.’ Because it does not affect their hands, OK? Now I understand little things, with maybe testosterone levels, because we are men. And men, we live off of testosterone. So, testosterone can do something, as far as maybe a performance-enhancer. But hey man, enhance your performance, baby, because I’m bringing it. You know what I’m saying? I mean, that’s just how I am, man. I can really care less, but I’m always pro-testing. I never go against it and I always participate, so we’ll see what happens.” ''