Can you pinpoint the exact fight where it was clear Holyfield was taking steroids?

[ddeg10]

All the major heavyweights were on it at that time. It was the norm. That doesn't make it OK, but it was a level playing field in my opinion. Not taking it meant you may as well get out of the sport if you wanted to compete at the elite level.

[_Maxi]

Show me another 122pder who carried his power though to 147?Like I said im just pretending he did not start fighting world class at 112 at age 20.IDK what to tell you and don't wanna waste time with someone who clearly already has his mind made up for whatever reasons.No one in history has even come close to having them results in his 6,7,8 weights.Also I think im giving him credit because it starts to get suspect around 2nd Morales fight, but ill give him benefit of doubt on that and also his improvement between 1st and 2nd Marquez fights.Go back in history and show me a 122 pder who could even compete much less destroy even Hatton at 40 much less Cotto at 45 or what he did to Margarito at 50.Like I said even Armstrong did not show same power as he moved up and he was bigger starting out then Pac.Also I notice you just skip reasons why he did what he did with Hatton(except saying he fought ****** fight)and also with Cotto.Also why no testing when fight was all but signed with May in 2010 that's all he needed to do to get fight and he says "im afraid of needles"when he has more tats then a biker?Even Roach says the reason fight did not happen 1st time around in 2010 was because of them.Its on youtube for anyone to see just search for it.BTW he was not 18 when he won 112 he was 20(or about a week away)and 21 when he lost it also not 21 when he won 122 like I said that was age when he lost 112(or about a week away also)

Wow, you somehow managed to turn a HOLYFIELD thread into a PACQUIAO one. Cong****... arse!

[chirorickyp]

Always on them. He took better roids before Bowe 2 and stepped it up more for the Tyson fights. He possibly went off them temporarily before the Czes fight.

[blue_dolphin]

NO WAY.

HE BLACK AND MERRICAN.

Russians be cheating doe. Russian government be cheating! Kovalev doe!

Holyfield is a black Russian.

Mericans dont cheat.

[john l]

Off the top of my head here are some fighters whose power translated over at least a 25 lb weight range:

Duran
Hearns
Thobela
G.Jones
Terry McGovern (proven over 20 lbs)
Jimmy Wilde
Stanley Ketchel
Ted Kid Lewis
Sam Langford
Joe Choynsky
Fitz
Micky Walker
Charley Burley
Turkey Thompson
Inoue i suspect will when all is said and done.

None hit or had the same speed after moving up that much.Duran was no where near the same kind of puncher even at 47 have you ever even seen him fight????Mikey Walker lmao he fought a swarming kind of style and list me me all the KOS he had over 47-60.I could keep going but its a waste of my time.Ketchel???Why because he scored a flash kd of Jonhson?You listed a bunch of fighter who moved up but NEVER carried the same power or speed.Also terrible Terry went from 118-126 his KO over Gans is a WELL known fixed fight.Dont just list a bunch of fighter you got off Wiki and don't know sh it about.

[john l]

Again, read the the article. It is all there. "Carry his power to 147". Sorry, in 15 fights at 147 he has had 2 stoppages! Power? WTF?! He has never tested positive for a single thing, unlike many fighters. The proof is on someone who claims he was on PEDs so prove it or STFU.

Your little fanboy azz could not shut me up if you were standing right next to me.Dont bother responding your a waste of my time.

[richardt]

Your little fanboy azz could not shut me up if you were standing right next to me.Dont bother responding your a waste of my time.

Fools like you can't debate which is why your response is nothing more than a brain fart. Others here have already shut your azz up. Go. Leave. You are dismissed. Dont bother responding, pea brain, you are on ignore and I wont have to see more nonsense from you.

[richardt]

Off the top of my head here are some fighters whose power translated over at least a 25 lb weight range:

Duran
Hearns
Thobela
G.Jones
Terry McGovern (proven over 20 lbs)
Jimmy Wilde
Stanley Ketchel
Ted Kid Lewis
Sam Langford
Joe Choynsky
Fitz
Micky Walker
Charley Burley
Turkey Thompson
Inoue i suspect will when all is said and done.

John is a classic sht for brains who doesnt realize Pac has 2 KO's in 15 fights at 147. He also doesnt realize Duran, a natural 135 pound fighter floored Iran Barkley who was a full fledged 160 pound champion as well as flooring and stopping Davey Moore a 154 pound champion. Yet somehow, John the idiot thinks Pac carried his power to 147 despite only 2 KO's in 15 fights.

[john l]

And neither was Pac at 147, sht for brains. And Duran floored the huge Barkley sht for brains. You are cooked. Just leave, idiot.

And Duran would have stopped a 135 pd version of Barkley in less then 3rds.Even Palamino at 47 took his shots without going down.If you think Duran had same power and speed EVEN at 47 just shows you have NEVER seen a 135pd Duran.Duran was able to move up because of SKILLS and DEFENSE he was NEVER the same offensive animal from 47 on.Your so dumb its unreal.The worst part is your even to dumb to see it.Cooked???????LMAO

[john l]

John is a classic sht for brains who doesnt realize Pac has 2 KO's in 15 fights at 147. He also doesnt realize Duran, a natural 135 pound fighter floored Iran Barkley who was a full fledged middleweight as well as flooring and stopping Davey Moore a 154 pound fighter. Yet somehow, John the idiot thinks Pac carried his power to 147 despite only 2 KO's in 15 fights.

Your a little boy whose whole identity is tied up in another man. Like somehow his success is yours ITS NOT your the same little fanboy now that you will be once you hit puberty.Good bye and have a great(so fricken glad its not my)life.