Can you pinpoint the exact fight where it was clear Holyfield was taking steroids?

[Mikhnienko]

Show me another 122pder who carried his power though to 147?

Off the top of my head here are some fighters whose power translated over at least a 25 lb weight range:

Duran
Hearns
Thobela
G.Jones
Terry McGovern (proven over 20 lbs)
Jimmy Wilde
Stanley Ketchel
Ted Kid Lewis
Sam Langford
Joe Choynsky
Fitz
Micky Walker
Charley Burley
Turkey Thompson
Inoue i suspect will when all is said and done.

[Left Hook Tua]

Yeah that's not a valid drug test.

We need to track down the man named EVAN FIELDS who was having roids and hgh mailed to himself.

This EVAN FIELDS might have some knowledge on whether holyfield was using peds since his mailing address for all those peds were evander holyfields home address too.

[Left Hook Tua]

Yeah pac carried his power from 122 to 147

You know since he has what 2 stoppages at 147?

Lol

The guy didnt have a ko between Hatton and matthyse

And Hatton was at 140 and even soft ass floyd cracked his ass

[richardt]

Show me another 122pder who carried his power though to 147?Like I said im just pretending he did not start fighting world class at 112 at age 20.IDK what to tell you and don't wanna waste time with someone who clearly already has his mind made up for whatever reasons.No one in history has even come close to having them results in his 6,7,8 weights.Also I think im giving him credit because it starts to get suspect around 2nd Morales fight, but ill give him benefit of doubt on that and also his improvement between 1st and 2nd Marquez fights.Go back in history and show me a 122 pder who could even compete much less destroy even Hatton at 40 much less Cotto at 45 or what he did to Margarito at 50.Like I said even Armstrong did not show same power as he moved up and he was bigger starting out then Pac.Also I notice you just skip reasons why he did what he did with Hatton(except saying he fought ****** fight)and also with Cotto.Also why no testing when fight was all but signed with May in 2010 that's all he needed to do to get fight and he says "im afraid of needles"when he has more tats then a biker?Even Roach says the reason fight did not happen 1st time around in 2010 was because of them.Its on youtube for anyone to see just search for it.BTW he was not 18 when he won 112 he was 20(or about a week away)and 21 when he lost it also not 21 when he won 122 like I said that was age when he lost 112(or about a week away also)

Again, read the the article. It is all there. "Carry his power to 147". Sorry, in 15 fights at 147 he has had 2 stoppages! Power? WTF?! He has never tested positive for a single thing, unlike many fighters. The proof is on someone who claims he was on PEDs so prove it or STFU.

[Left Hook Tua]

Funny how all these popular and hofer fighters got busted for roids but no one cares

But everyone cares so much about pac even though pac has never tested positive

Lol

[Bad_Guy]

I will never understand the absolute obsession with steroids speculation that some posters on this site have, even putting together detailed cases as if they are lawyers awaiting trial.

[Eddy Current]

Lol there's an enormous contrast in physique there

[Hands of Stone]

The 2nd Bowe fight right around that time he went from 205-8 after he was 218 and had more explosiveness and power.Also Lewis close to same time went from 227 or so to 245 with no fat and same speed.Pac I think the Diaz fight at that point he should have been losing power and explosiveness but instead he starting hitting even harder.Think about it EVERYONE starts to lose those things at best AROUND 3rd or 4th weight div.That was Pac's 4th not even counting his 112 reign and skipping 2 weight classes if you count those it was his 7th.Show me another guy in history who did not lose power and explosiveness around his 3rd or 4th division.SRL was not same fighter at 160,SRR was not same at 160 even with a guy like Hearns whose body was made to go up divisions lost some pop at 68 his 4th.H Armstrong was not KOing guys at 47 he was wearing them down, but he did not start hitting harder.Pac not only showed that at 35 but also when he moved up more at 40,47.Thats why so many fighters thought he was juicing most you have to read between lines because they don't wanna get sued.Guys like Malignaggi and C Byrd have all but came out and said it, and many more.The little guys around 108 who win titles around age 20 in 4-5 fights can move up a little more because 1st their age and 2nd because of how little the difference between weight classes.Remember im just forgetting about his time at 112 and skipping 2 weights and just pretending he was a natural 122 from start and it still should/did make people be confident in saying that about him.Do you hear any other fighters saying what many said about Pac except maybe to possible opponents.

They said Bowe and this clown here made a book of response on Pacquaio never mind Pac never failed a test or popped for PEDs as Holy did. The hate for Pac with this Floyd fanatics is so real and it is pathetic if you ask me.The whole myth about Pac getting stronger and gaining power was all but made up by the ignorant Mayweather fanboys. The ignorant Floyd Sr even said he was using some **** the filipino military uses. How more ignorant can that sound.

Power is the last thing that leaves a fighter and even though he had power, it was only able to get him 2 legit KOs over inferior Hatton & Diaz, the former which Floyd ko'd and we know he had little power. Dela Hoya was already dead and Pac did his thing, Cotto the only fight he displayed mastery and even then it was still a TKO which was the end of the so called power myth. The other guy has more history of burying PED results than Pac including a mysterious 750ml TUE that remains buried till today. At least, be objective

[D4thincarnation]

anyone know?

He was taking it for years.

How do you think he moved up the weights so easily.

He started off as a light heavy.

He was on some pretty strong stuff definitely HGH, and that is one of the reason he had heart issues

[_Maxi]

NO WAY.

HE BLACK AND MERRICAN.

Russians be cheating doe. Russian government be cheating! Kovalev doe!