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  • #11
    Wilder's last performance has changed things for me, it is edging towards a 50/50 fight.

    Wilder's range and movement for me, look abit better in the opening round. Wilder is not has durable as Joshua, and I don't think he has creative boxing ability. But I honestly believe he has the ability to develop a real impressive jab. 'With his range and awkwardness, I want to see him really work on his jab' because if he does fight Joshua/Fury, if Wilder an win the battle of the jabs? That alone will completely shut his opponents down 'even without the knock out the other night, I liked what I saw from Wilder'.

    I believe that when Joshua & Wilder both meet, the fight will resemble Frank Bruno vs Lennox Lewis 'Strategically, that is how I think the fight will play out'.

    Joshua's jab is alright, but it is nothing special 'there are no real heavyweights around today with decent jabbing ability' <<< Yes I know, a joke can be made of this.

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    • #12
      Joshua's jab isn't elite on its own. But it keeps on coming. His workrate and punch output is very high for a big guy. And he combines it with speed.

      It's a boxer/puncher vs an extreme puncher. I don't mean to denigrate Wilder's skills but he's fundamentally a puncher.

      On the understanding that they all fight each other, we're actually pretty lucky to have three very different top heavyweights.

      I still think Fury Wilder is the same fight as it always was. If Fury can avoid being KO'd the right hand he wins. If he can't he loses. My money would be on Fury. I don't think Wilder can ever get that Breazeale shot off against a guy who moves like Fury.

      Joshua v Wilder is a real toss up. It won't go to points. Joshua won't walk into a right hand, but he can be hit and hurt. Joshua can undoubtedly hurt Wilder if he's got the balls to get within range and produce his usual pressure.

      And I'm edging towards Joshua against Fury. Fury doesn't throw enough, can't stop Joshua and he'll simply get beaten on punch output if he lasts the 12 rounds.

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      • #13
        Amateurs

        Fury: age 16 - 20, record: 31 - 4

        AJ: age 18 - 23, record: 40 - 3

        Wilder: age 20 - 23, record: 30 - 5

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Cutthroat View Post
          Lmao so Fury is the same level as Scott?

          Wilder fought the guy that schooled Wlad 2 years before. AJ fought the loser, Wilder the winner.


          Imagine getting dropped by a guy that couldn't even drop Fury or Bryant Jennings 2 years ago LOL
          Wow, excellent points.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by ThunderFists View Post
            Imagine getting dropped by harold sconiers and dustin nichols. :/

            Imagine waiting 38/39 fights before fighting someone with a pulse. Imagine a guy turning pro 4/5 years after you and he still unifies quicker and fights better comp in half the fights/time
            Almost every champion in the history of the sport has been dropped by someone at some point in their career.

            Imagine worshipping the guy that wasted 7 years fighting teenagers with headgear while criticizing the guy that went pro ASAP.


            You fail to realize just how little experience Wilder has compared to all his peers.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Cutthroat View Post
              Almost every champion in the history of the sport has been dropped by someone at some point in their career.

              Imagine worshipping the guy that wasted 7 years fighting teenagers with headgear while criticizing the guy that went pro ASAP.


              You fail to realize just how little experience Wilder has compared to all his peers.

              Joshua was a amateur for 5 years, only 2 more than wilder.

              Being a pro and fighting nobodies and dishwashers for your first 35 fights doesnt mean anything, joshua was fighting elite amateurs in the olympics whereas wilder wss fighting people who literally were obese.

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              • #17
                My honest answer. Its been way too slow.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by ThunderFists View Post
                  Joshua was a amateur for 5 years, only 2 more than wilder.

                  Being a pro and fighting nobodies and dishwashers for your first 35 fights doesnt mean anything, joshua was fighting elite amateurs in the olympics whereas wilder wss fighting people who literally were obese.






                  Wilder won a bronze medal in the Olympics so obviously he was also fighting elite amateurs. You should at least try to be factual.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                    Wilder won a bronze medal in the Olympics so obviously he was also fighting elite amateurs. You should at least try to be factual.
                    Noone said he hasnt fought any elite amateurs. You should try not being intellectually dishonest. That was a reply to joshua fighting elite amateurs whilst wilder was fighting fatsos and construction workers. Btw he lost to the elite amateurs thats the differnce

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                    • #20
                      its weird to me that boxing fans don't take these things into consideration but oh well.

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