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  • MastaBlasta
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    #51
    Originally posted by Bonduu
    Sad really what Wilder has turned you to...
    I'm a BOXING fan. I like Wilder. I like AJ. I've said forever that Wilder vs AJ is a 50/50 fight who wins. Fury, Breazeale, Whyte, Dubois, Ali, Foreman, Louis, Marciano, Spence, Floyd, Paq, Iron Mike, Holyfiel, Duran, Hearns, Tito, Mikey, Boom Boom, Lewis, Yarde, Froch, lots of others. Lots of others who were never champs. Even if I don't particularly like a fighter I like to see fights. I used to box. It's a man thing for me.

    I defend Wilder & PBC because so much of the noise is so backwards wrong and based on hate rather han facts. If you watch my comments on other fights/fighters I do the same elsewhere for others too.

    What's sad is what Wilder (hate) has turned YOU into, LoL!

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #52
      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
      Joshua wants the fight next. Does Wilder want the fight next?
      As things stand now thats not really the question. The real question is does DAZN want the fight next?

      And the more important question to that question is does DAZN wants the fight next bad enough to pay Wilder what Wilder & his team feel the fight is worth?

      I think DAZN, Joshua & Wilder would all be down for having the fight next.

      Idk if DAZN is willing to pay enough to make it happen next, but we will likely be seeing that one way or another in the next few weeks as we await Joshua vs Ruiz & in the direct aftermath of that fight.

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      • MastaBlasta
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        #53
        Originally posted by DaNeutral.
        Joshua wants Wilder, NEXT. Does Wilder want Joshua next?
        Talk is cheap. If he wants it his Team will show it in the negotiations. They will MAKE SURE everyone is happy with the terms and we will get a fight.

        All the rest is just love notes to you cheerleaders.

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        • DaNeutral.
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          #54
          Originally posted by MastaBlasta
          Talk is cheap. If he wants it his Team will show it in the negotiations. They will MAKE SURE everyone is happy with the terms and we will get a fight.

          All the rest is just love notes to you cheerleaders.
          Does Wilder want the fight next? Was Ortiz just meeting him in the ring cuz they were off to a movie together for a late night showing?

          He either does or he doesnt.

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          • MastaBlasta
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            #55
            Originally posted by DaNeutral.
            Which bit?

            Was there not a 24 hour deadline?
            Did Hearn get the contract, or terms?
            Did Hearn ask for them?
            Did Finkel cancel a planned meeting?

            Ive seen interviews with Finkel that confirm there was a 24 hour deadline, that he did cancel meetings and that he didnt send them terms or conditions or a contract. OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH.
            All of that noise has been debunked by many here on the forum for months. I'm not tryna re-hash all that stuff, it's NOISE. It proves or disproves NOTHING.

            Both men are already wealthy, and win or lose they will be a lot wealthier. Both have fought and sparred hundreds of hours, so all this NOISE is pointless other than a few laughs.

            But, keep clicking your heels together and repeat ...

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            • DaNeutral.
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              #56
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              As things stand now thats not really the question. The real question is does DAZN want the fight next?

              And the more important question to that question is does DAZN wants the fight next bad enough to pay Wilder what Wilder & his team feel the fight is worth?

              I think DAZN, Joshua & Wilder would all be down for having the fight next.

              Idk if DAZN is willing to pay enough to make it happen next, but we will likely be seeing that one way or another in the next few weeks as we await Joshua vs Ruiz & in the direct aftermath of that fight.
              What has it got to do with DAZN any more? Finkel and Wilder have made it quite clear they want that fight on SHOWTIME. That completely rules out DAZN and the DAZN money.

              How about Wilder coming back with an offer? A real one this time with some terms and conditions. No point talking about how much money THEY can make putting it on their network and then holding out their hands looking for a payout from Joshua and Hearn. Make an offer, put your money where your mouth is.

              Truth is Wilder and Finkel talking all this huge money on Showtime PPV but are not in the least bit willing to pay out on that, they are not prepared to offer Joshua a guarantee that can compete with DAZN. So they are all talk.

              They talking about their worth, their value and then just holding their hands out hoping their words will get other people to pay them out. They certainly aint paying themselves out, they just paid Wilder less than half of what DAZN was going to pay him for the same fight in the same venue.

              Wilders opposition has been lined up for him and Joshua is not on that list. Deny it all you want but its just fact and has been confirmed by Wilder and Finkel.

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              • MastaBlasta
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                #57
                Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                Does Wilder want the fight next? Was Ortiz just meeting him in the ring cuz they were off to a movie together for a late night showing?

                He either does or he doesnt.
                A good starting point: unless you hear WILDER say " I don't want the fight", stop acting like you can speak for him and rant "Wilder doesn't want the fight".

                2) stop trying to read into every comment, move, presence or lack thereof what is going on in ANYONE's mind besides your own. Fact is: you don't have a d*mn clue.

                3) You support Aj or hearn or something. We get it. No need to cheerlead so hard and slander everyone else and everyone elses efforts to do whatever. Again: you cannot read minds .... your conclusions came out of YOUR OWN HEAD - realize that.

                Peace!

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                  What has it got to do with DAZN any more? Finkel and Wilder have made it quite clear they want that fight on SHOWTIME. That completely rules out DAZN and the DAZN money.
                  I'm sure Wilder gots his own take on what he wants to happen. DAZN is the one with the money bags doe to convince him they got a better idea.

                  But I do agree things could go south or just open up with Joshua & DAZN & allow this fight to be made with Showtime. And I suspect if they market it right it'd make both guys more money via PPV then DAZN would be paying either of them.

                  That said it'd be a PR nightmare for DA "PPV is Dead" ZN to lose one of their biggest names for a fight or two to Showtime to make a big PPV fight so DAZN should just open up their checkbooks now to avoid that bad look.

                  How about Wilder coming back with an offer?
                  I suspect they gave DAZN some clue or direct info on what they were willing to accept.

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                  • Straightener
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                    #59
                    Wilders team know he’s not ready

                    They are gonna have him fighting the other pbc heavy’s and the wbc will give him a pass

                    Weak

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                    • DaNeutral.
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by MastaBlasta
                      A good starting point: unless you hear WILDER say " I don't want the fight", stop acting like you can speak for him and rant "Wilder doesn't want the fight".

                      2) stop trying to read into every comment, move, presence or lack thereof what is going on in ANYONE's mind besides your own. Fact is: you don't have a d*mn clue.

                      3) You support Aj or hearn or something. We get it. No need to cheerlead so hard and slander everyone else and everyone elses efforts to do whatever. Again: you cannot read minds .... your conclusions came out of YOUR OWN HEAD - realize that.

                      Peace!
                      So with Ortiz in the ring, that fight being lined up next and Wilders manager saying the AJ fight wont be atleast until 2020 i dont know what they want to do next? It might be Joshua?

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