will vargas be better @ 160 without weight draining: or is he done!!?

[jchavez12345]

This guy is done... can you imagine what would happen if jermain taylor hits nando? vargas just needs to retire

[vB Martin]

Vargas was exposed by Tito and his career, for all intents and purposes, was ended that night.
Prior to Tito Vargas shoed some real potential, but he took a brutal beating in that fight and it scarred him both physically and mentally. It's a shame, too, because the potential was there to beat Tito. He just fought the wrong fight that night and forever changed the course of his boxing career.

[Bonafide]

how many beatings will vargas have to take before everyone realizes that he never was really all that good in the first place? vargas shouldnt even be a recognizable fighter.

quit the hatin please. Yah he's taken beatings in the past only because he's fought top level opposition and fighting them at a tender young age. Alot of other issues have contributed to his demise but to say he shouldnt be recognized as a fighter is bull****. He was all about fighting and heart and fans came to see him because he came to fight every night.

[amagnin]

quit the hatin please. Yah he's taken beatings in the past only because he's fought top level opposition and fighting them at a tender young age. Alot of other issues have contributed to his demise but to say he shouldnt be recognized as a fighter is bull****. He was all about fighting and heart and fans came to see him because he came to fight every night.

Right on. He may be done now as an elite fighter, but he gave it his all and ducked nobody. If he had been managed more carefully like too many fighters today, he might be mentioned in the same class as Mosley, Vargas, and Tito. Management is an underrated part of the game.

[Zab Super Judah]

he should be alittle better but he just needs to fight with the fire that he use to have. HE needs to fight with the ferocious attitude that made him famous.

[eyeloveboxing]

Vargas was exposed by Tito and his career, for all intents and purposes, was ended that night.
Prior to Tito Vargas shoed some real potential, but he took a brutal beating in that fight and it scarred him both physically and mentally. It's a shame, too, because the potential was there to beat Tito. He just fought the wrong fight that night and forever changed the course of his boxing career.

i totally agree... he fought Tito when he was 22~23 years old. what kind of management team would put a 22 year old kid with a elite fighter like Tito?

[blockhead]

quit the hatin please. Yah he's taken beatings in the past only because he's fought top level opposition and fighting them at a tender young age. Alot of other issues have contributed to his demise but to say he shouldnt be recognized as a fighter is bull****. He was all about fighting and heart and fans came to see him because he came to fight every night.

its not hating. its true

[keystone30pack]

vargas look old and stiff in the fight (even thoguth i thought he would not and win)

he needs to retire before any future potential fans see him fight and wintess an inflexible **** talker get his ass whipped again.

these potential fans probably won't be impressed as they witness a "never was" who talks like he's a world class fighter

without the background knowledge of Vargas' past that we have, they may buy into his bs and then see him perform stiff, and unaggressive. Therefore, reducing the possibility that they will become a fan of boxing.

[BigmoneyMikes]

Vargas is done. his been going down hill since the beating he got from Tito. vargas has gotten slower and his reation time isnt there anymore, time to hang it up before he suffers from permanent damage.

[Easy-E]

how many beatings will vargas have to take before everyone realizes that he never was really all that good in the first place? vargas shouldnt even be a recognizable fighter.

He gave Tito the fight of his life at 22 years of age.